[CL] Juventus 1-0 Maccabi Haifa, Oct. 21st 2009 (11 Viewers)

CL Grp A Match 3: Juventus - Maccabi Haifa - Man of the Match

  • SuperFriggingGigi Buffon

  • Zebina

  • Cannavaro

  • Chiellini

  • Grosso

  • Sissoko

  • Melo

  • Camoranesi

  • Diego

  • Giovinco

  • Trezeguet

  • Cáceres

  • Poulsen

  • Amauri

  • Ferrara

  • Captain Rabih Fawaz


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Salvo

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curr really?

im just thinking, i love ciro as a man, as a player but....i dont think he can

but who is out there? does anyone have a list of good coaches out there?
 
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  • Thread Starter #46
    We see you've already got the correct scoreline. ;)
    All games have this scoreline up until one opens the scoresheet.

    Poulsen-Melo-Camoranesi

    That was our midfield against Palermo and today after Sissoko was subbed out.

    The first two aren't speedsters and they're more about positioning. As the match goes on they lose even more on speed since they get more tired. Camo doesn't have the legs too anymore. He's 33 and he's so much slower than he used to be. His work rate is also worse, much worse, than it used to be.

    That's why we lose the midfield lately, and that's why we were losing it in the last minutes.

    We need runners in midfield to cover it all. We need both Sissoko and Marchisio.
    With these two and with one attacker who knows how to play football, this will be, i'm 100% sure, a much different and dominant team.

    Right now, especially when Camo, Poulsen and Melo play in midfield, we look like Milan of last year when they had Pirlo, Seedorf, Ambrosini and were ran over by most of the midfields.

    We do need someone who isn't a runner but can play the ball (like Melo and Tiago) but the other two players obviously need to move all the time, cover lots of space, defend, and make themselves available for a pass.
    It is so obvious that our available players are not fit for the system we are playing. I look it at with the lack of movement and players on the third line. You see it as stagnant in the second line. Andy sees weakness on the side of the pitch.

    And guess what? We are all right. The system is not working and it has to be changed. Stubbornness will take us nowhere.
     

    Bjerknes

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    All games have this scoreline up until one opens the scoresheet.



    It is so obvious that our available players are not fit for the system we are playing. I look it at with the lack of movement and players on the third line. You see it as stagnant in the second line. Andy sees weakness on the side of the pitch.

    And guess what? We are all right. The system is not working and it has to be changed. Stubbornness will take us nowhere.
    Yeah, it's a nice combo of problems, and we're not talking Value Meal here. We need better movement from the forwards and midfielders, along with better flank action which obviously comes down to what sort of backs we have. I just think three DM's is not going to work with our backs, so might as well use only two of them with four attackers in front. Worth a try; Melo and Soaker together isn't weak, or anything.
     
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    Yeah, it's a nice combo of problems, and we're not talking Value Meal here. We need better movement from the forwards and midfielders, along with better flank action which obviously comes down to what sort of backs we have. I just think three DM's is not going to work with our backs, so might as well use only two of them with four attackers in front. Worth a try; Melo and Soaker together isn't weak, or anything.
    For me the most frightening thing is the ease our opponents play against each us. It's like all the managers we've faced so far are well aware on how to paralyze us and take the game to us. They know where to disable our engine, they know how to move the ball so we could only chase and they know how to threaten us. And chasing balls with being threatened exhausts a team much faster.

    The second annoying thing I see is that when we have possession we simply lack ideas or tactical know how on what to do with the ball.
     
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    I don't like Diego so deep in the formation. He has to either play as a trequartista or as a support striker and he's doing neither.
     

    Bjerknes

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    For me the most frightening thing is the ease our opponents play against each us. It's like all the managers we've faced so far are well aware on how to paralyze us and take the game to us. They know where to disable our engine, they know how to move the ball so we could only chase and they know how to threaten us. And chasing balls with being threatened exhausts a team much faster.

    The second annoying thing I see is that when we have possession we simply lack ideas or tactical know how on what to do with the ball.
    The problem is the strikers are not able to get involved with play like Alex, the movement in midfield is poor as these three said players (Poulsen, Melo, Sissoko) are defensive midfielders, and we don't have an outlet out right. This is the problem with the three DM system -- unless you have quite inventive players in front of them, it won't work. It doesn't work for us with two one-dimensional forwards, leaving Diego by himself. We need more outlets, more invention, more intelligent team movement.

    With the diamond midfield wide strength must be compensated for with fullback presence, movement by the non-holding midfielders, and the forward line. Milan, the fags, were successful because they had Kaka, Seedorf and Sheva running in front of Pirlo, all players who have excellent movement and individual skills. Looking at Amauri, Yak, and our three DM's, it's quite a difference.
     

    Sadomin

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    I don't like Diego so deep in the formation. He has to either play as a trequartista or as a support striker and he's doing neither.
    That's where I'd like him as well, but I'd rather play him deeper while Del Piero is out. That's where he seemed the most comfortable last night and it would make us less Diego-dependant.

    I'm sure he'd play well there.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Diego is best around the box. Put the scorpion in his natural home, in the sand around the opposition box. I would honestly give him free reign in the attack behind a loan striker.
     
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    When I started the thread it was vs, someone changed it and I really like it.
     

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