[CL] JUVENTUS 0-0 Barcelona [November 22nd 2017] (3 Viewers)

[Seven]

My eyes were bleeding reading both yours and Linebreak's post.

The first Juve entertaining to watch? The same Juve that got beaten in Pireus and miraculously beat the same Olympiakos at home 3:2 to qualify? The same that was totally toothless in both games against Atletico and beat FC Midtjylland or Copenhagen by a low margin? The same that almost got beaten by Monaco in semis and needed a dubious penalty to scora a single goal and go through?
That Juventus was everything but a fast countering team. Pogba was over complicating things whenever he could and Morata was often left out in favor of Llorente. You have a memory of a golden fish.

We scored the most goals in our history and folks don't like watching it Some people just need to complain all the time.

Klopp and Guardiola are the cherries on the top. Let's start with the German. He's been coaching Liverpool for three years now and his results are no better than those of Rodgers. His Liverpool hasn't been top of the table even for a week. LFC has the same amounts of points as Burnley ffs. People here complain Max being the yes man while Klopp sold half of Borussia during his years there Majority of them going to the direct rival His BVB was bottem of the table midway the season right after they were in the CL final Kloppo please come and make Juventus great again!

What exactly is Guardiola doing at City? Has he done anything that Mancini or Pellegrini couldn't do? What did he do with Bayern? Won Bundes? Wow!

I love that you accuse others of having "a memory of a golden fish" (sic), yet you think we played Monaco in the semis in 2014-2015. We also beat Dortmund in the 2nd round with 1-2 and 3-0 scores and had entertaining games against Real Madrid, in which we were clearly superior, in the semis.

Oh, and we played Malmö in the group.

 

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[The Quazis]

I love that you accuse others of having "a memory of a golden fish" (sic), yet you think we played Monaco in the semis in 2014-2015. We also beat Dortmund in the 2nd round with 1-2 and 3-0 scores and had entertaining games against Real Madrid, in which we were clearly superior, in the semis.

Oh, and we played Malmö in the group.

Alright, I confused 1/4 with 1/2 that we played against Monaco and put a wrong Scandinavian team, big deal really. As for the second sentence, I disagree with us being clearly superior to Real in that semi because it was a 50-50. The point is, we are still during the group stage this season, why won't you mention any of our stellar performances from the same stage that season?

 

[Seven]

Alright, I confused 1/4 with 1/2 that we played against Monaco and put a wrong Scandinavian team, big deal really. As for the second sentence, I disagree with us being clearly superior to Real in that semi because it was a 50-50. The point is, we are still during the group stage this season, why won't you mention any of our stellar performances from the same stage that season?

Well it is a pretty big fucking deal if you go around accusing people of having a poor memory.

 

[Valerio.]

Alright, I confused 1/4 with 1/2 that we played against Monaco and put a wrong Scandinavian team, big deal really. As for the second sentence, I disagree with us being clearly superior to Real in that semi because it was a 50-50. The point is, we are still during the group stage this season, why won't you mention any of our stellar performances from the same stage that season?

Dude it's not about single games it's the whole thing
I enjoyed more the first Allegri than the following ones.
I, MYSELF AND ME (so my opinion) enjoyed more the low defending and fast counter than this!!!
Last year 4-2-3-1 worked well but this year we're too fragile defensive speaking.

Talking about Klopp and Guardiola I think we have a bigger players base than Liverpool for sure and at least on a equal level than this year Manchester.

 

[Monty]

Its like a Premier League fanboy invasion in here.

I've said it before, in the last 20 years I've never seen Juve play so called 'pretty' football. Allegri's versions have been the most attacking in fact.

This club is all about winning, that is our philosophy.

You want pretty football, go watch Arsenal.

 

[Seven]

Its like a Premier League fanboy invasion in here.

I've said it before, in the last 20 years I've never seen Juve play so called 'pretty' football. Allegri's versions have been the most attacking in fact.

This club is all about winning, that is our philosophy.

You want pretty football, go watch Arsenal.

It depends on what you'd call pretty. I've seen us play absolutely fantastic attacking games over the years. Your avatar is testimony to one of them. But in more recent times I'd agree that Allegri's teams (I call them teams, because there have been so many changes) have consistently been among the most attacking we've seen.

 

[Monty]

It depends on what you'd call pretty. I've seen us play absolutely fantastic attacking games over the years. Your avatar is testimony to one of them. But in more recent times I'd agree that Allegri's teams (I call them teams, because there have been so many changes) have consistently been among the most attacking we've seen.

Oh man that was such a great game ...the greatest

 

[The Quazis]

Well it is a pretty big $#@!ing deal if you go around accusing people of having a poor memory.

If you haven't noticed, the topic was our gameplay that season so whether it was in 1/2 or 1/4 does not matter. What is also of a little significance is whether we barely beat Copenhagen, FC Midtjylland or Malmö in 2014-2015 CL group stage because these teams present very similar level.

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Dude it's not about single games it's the whole thing
I enjoyed more the first Allegri than the following ones.
I, MYSELF AND ME (so my opinion) enjoyed more the low defending and fast counter than this!!!
Last year 4-2-3-1 worked well but this year we're too fragile defensive speaking.

Talking about Klopp and Guardiola I think we have a bigger players base than Liverpool for sure and at least on a equal level than this year Manchester.

I just wanted to remind you how frustrating that Juventus could be in 14/15 season because you seem to forgot it. Also, how can you compare these two Juventus sides so early? Especially since it's a well known manner of Juventus to slowly get into the pace throughout the season just to be peaking in spring. And it's not even winter yet.

Man, Liverpool is total shiet under Klopp. They can demolish City 4:1 just to earn 2 points from their next 3 games against the minnows. It's been like that since Klopp started as their coach. Again, they have the same amount of points as BURNLEY. Or they had till like a week ago (@Seven).

 

[Bianconero81]

We definitely played more beautiful football when we had Lippi as coach, Davids bossing the midfield, and Zizou and DP terrorizing defenses.

 

[Valerio.]

If you haven't noticed, the topic was our gameplay that season so whether it was in 1/2 or 1/4 does not matter. What is also of a little significance is whether we barely beat Copenhagen, FC Midtjylland or Malmö in 2014-2015 CL group stage because these teams present very similar level.

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I just wanted to remind you how frustrating that Juventus could be in 14/15 season because you seem to forgot it. Also, how can you compare these two Juventus sides so early? Especially since it's a well known manner of Juventus to slowly get into the pace throughout the season just to be peaking in spring. And it's not even winter yet.

Man, Liverpool is total shiet under Klopp. They can demolish City 4:1 just to earn 2 points from their next 3 games against the minnows. It's been like that since Klopp started as their coach. Again, they have the same amount of points as BURNLEY. Or they had till like a week ago (@Seven).

Ye but we need a change on mentality when we perform in Champions League.
That's the problem with Juventus. The League can be won easly but we will not win CL with a change of some sort.
Does Bayern has much better players than ours when they won CL?
We're comparable and they managed to win against Real Ronaldo and Messilona at their peak.
So why can't we?

Now it's true that without Pogba,Vidal and Dani Alves we lost a lot but not even competing on equal terms? losing 7-2 on aggregate between 2 finals??

 

[zizinho]

Do we play ugly ? Kinda
Are we efficient ? Not enough but not bad either

Is it fucking March yet ? Nope, its fucking november


MOVE ALONG

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i remember beign mad at Max for not going for the win vs Atletico in our last matchday 3 years ago, where we also played some ugly football. then he showed everyone why hes the EuroMaxx and got to the final which no one expected. playing ugly, collecting points in Serie A, doing just enough to progress in CL, peaking from March till May - your typical Juventus team

 

[Bianconero81]

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i remember beign mad at Max for not going for the win vs Atletico in our last matchday 3 years ago, where we also played some ugly football. then he showed everyone why hes the EuroMaxx and got to the final which no one expected. playing ugly, collecting points in Serie A, doing just enough to progress in CL, peaking from March till May - your typical Juventus team

That can also come to bite you in the butt, like in 2016, when we finished 2nd in our group and drew Bayern.

 

[The Quazis]

Ye but we need a change on mentality when we perform in Champions League.
That's the problem with Juventus. The League can be won easly but we will not win CL with a change of some sort.
Does Bayern has much better players than ours when they won CL?
We're comparable and they managed to win against Real Ronaldo and Messilona at their peak.
So why can't we?

Now it's true that without Pogba,Vidal and Dani Alves we lost a lot but not even competing on equal terms? losing 7-2 on aggregate between 2 finals??

I completely agree that the players we currently have at our disposal are capable of lifting the trophy. What change of attitude you have in mind though? The disposition during the group stage doesn't have much impact on who's gonna lift the trophy eventually. Look at Madrid last season, they finished behind BVB and went on to win the whole thing.

I believe it's more the fans having attitude problem than the club itself. Look at this forum, the majority of users are praying to avoid PSG and City in the knock-outs. That's the right attitude? I don't think so. So maybe let's start to support our club instead of constant whining. It's the players, not us, that need to go out on the pitch and win a game. They haven't let us down too often these last couple of years, have they? What we can do is to at least give them a chance this season before writing them off already.

As for the finals, these are one off games. It's hard to draw conclusions only on two separate games. What's certain is that we will eventually win it if we are going to be reaching the finals so often.

 

[zizinho]

That can also come to bite you in the butt, like in 2016, when we finished 2nd in our group and drew Bayern.

but do you remember our form for the finish of that season? Pogba, Morata, Dybala, Cuads and AS all balling at their absolute best. had we got past Bayern (which we should, if Moratas disallowed goal counted), im sure we would have went all the way

 

[Seven]

If you haven't noticed, the topic was our gameplay that season so whether it was in 1/2 or 1/4 does not matter. What is also of a little significance is whether we barely beat Copenhagen, FC Midtjylland or Malmö in 2014-2015 CL group stage because these teams present very similar level.

You seriously expect me to enter into a debate with you about our gameplay if you can't even remember our opponents? How can you ever have anything meaningful to say about a game, when you don't even know which teams participated in said game?

 

[JCK]

but do you remember our form for the finish of that season? Pogba, Morata, Dybala, Cuads and AS all balling at their absolute best. had we got past Bayern (which we should, if Moratas disallowed goal counted), im sure we would have went all the way

And lost the final.

 

[Mark]

Poll? @Mark

nah

 

[Fr3sh]

And lost the final.

Alves and Bonucci sold us out

 

[DAiDEViL]

Yeah, look what Klopp is doing with Liverpool. Let's bring him here and win the CL. ::

@DAiDEViL

Klopp

 

[Nedved96]

Yeah, look what Klopp is doing with Liverpool. Let's bring him here and win the CL. ::

@DAiDEViL

Klopp was closer to winning the CL in 2013 than Allegri has ever been, and Dortmund did not have a team as good as we did in either 2015 or 2017.