[CL FINAL] JUVENTUS 1-4 Real Madrid [3rd June, 2017] (32 Viewers)

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Vialli_92

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Also a clear attacking plan with memorized movements is important. We have only had that tactical setup for a few months and thats why we looked like we were improvising.
I've got criticised here this season for saying our attack is not good enough but it's painfully obvious after this match when we didn't create one single chance in a CL final.

Buying Benatia is an example of the mentality. Defence is the last thing we need to work on yet we are buying more of them still.

€17 million and high wages for a player we don't need.
 

swag

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I've got criticised here this season for saying our attack is not good enough but it's painfully obvious after this match when we didn't create one single chance in a CL final.

Buying Benatia is an example of the mentality. Defence is the last thing we need to work on yet we are buying more of them still.

€17 million and high wages for a player we don't need.
Defense is what lost this match for us, however
 
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What a surprise that the usual suspects (Higuain and Khedira) seem to be getting the most shit for this loss again. At least it seems Mandzukic has nowadays gotten out of that company, good for him. Football is a team sport you lose as a team and you win as a team. Always trying to blame the same individual players for the losses is just lazy and intellectually dishonest.
 

Jvcro

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What a surprise that the usual suspects (Higuain and Khedira) seem to be getting the most $#@! for this loss again. At least it seems Mandzukic has nowadays gotten out of that company, good for him. Football is a team sport you lose as a team and you win as a team. Always trying to blame the same individual players for the losses is just lazy and intellectually dishonest.
We are talk about players in our team. Yes I do it also. I am so evil beacuse that.
 

Vialli_92

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Defense is what lost this match for us, however
Football has changed to a more aggressive attacking game and we are left behind.

The teams that take more risks in attack are generally the teams that win the CL.

Our defence realistically will not improve so we should be focusing on other area's like not having Lemina and Asamoah as subs.

I appreciate Barzagli and Khedira but they had a poor final and offered nothing.

Mandzukic is not a left winger but he stepped up tonight but I would still rather see someone like Sanchez in his position.
 

Stephan

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People who say we have mentality issues and im not disagreeing with that. What kind of coach can solve those issues when you think about it? Maybe only Ancelotti who brought Real their first title in 12 years. Thats where the belief and confidence came. Lets remember Ronaldo joined Real in 2009 but only won CL in 2014.

Bayern lost 2010, 2012 finals before 2013.

Right now there arent that many coaches around realistically available to bring who could bring that CL mentality.

I wouldnt be surprised if we have inferior complex in final, cause thats the thing, as a team we havent won it. Thats why u also see the Atleticos and Dortmunds lose to their bigger rival in the CL final. Dont have that CL winning pedigree.

Add the fact that Allegri hasnt won it. So he doesnt know, well, he doesnt have that experience. While Zidane won it as a player and then as Carlo assistant before taking over.

Ancelotti made the big difference by winning then the first in 12 years.
 

Collaguazo

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FFS even fucking Di Matteo managed to win a CL. This shit is not rocket science dammit! Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Doesn't matter if we are favorites, underdogs, 50/50, topped our group, were second in our group, got lucky in the knockout rounds, destroyed Barcelona, didn't concede, conceded 20 goals, undefeated, defeated, play with 3,4,5 at the back, attack, defend, go sideways, upwards, downwards, jump, sit, dance, fino allá fine, it's time, have all the statistics on our favour, treble, no treble, old, young, wear adidas or Nike or kappa, play naked, play in white, play in blue, home or away, against German, Italian, Spanish, English teams we always fucking lose!

Shit the only way we might win this thing is if elkann creates Juventus B and somehow both teams manage to get to the final. And still a Juventus is gonna lose!!!
 
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