[CL] Champions League 2014/15 (50 Viewers)
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People are quick to blame defenders even if he failed there, but no one points out the flaw of why that sitaution occured, Pep is NOT friend to his defenders, he makes them play a ridicolous high line vs this attack, AND instructs them to play short passes no matter what in tricky positions and when pressured. They were clearly gassed and Barca still had the extra step to pressure them to win the ball high too often, they do and they have all the space they need since every defender seemed to be on his own in this high line approach. Quite foolish, almost as foolish as starting the game with 3 back line against the 3 deadliest combo ever.
This.
About Barca's game tonight,yeah Messi is amazing and bla bla bla.
BUT Bayern was doing pretty good defensevely until the first goal.
They were organised and disciplined at the back,then they tried to find the equaliser but were going all forward and giving Barca exactly what they need: space on a counters + giving Messi 1 on 1 opportunities.i mean,that was dumb.
Yeah Messi ofcourse did his job great,but still Bayern really was awful at the back.
Instead of a 1:0 loss it's 3:0 now.they're done.
About Barca's game tonight,yeah Messi is amazing and bla bla bla.
BUT Bayern was doing pretty good defensevely until the first goal.
They were organised and disciplined at the back,then they tried to find the equaliser but were going all forward and giving Barca exactly what they need: space on a counters + giving Messi 1 on 1 opportunities.i mean,that was dumb.
Yeah Messi ofcourse did his job great,but still Bayern really was awful at the back.
Instead of a 1:0 loss it's 3:0 now.they're done.
It doesnt because Italian/latin defences in general approach is allway play your way out not hoof it, but Pep overdoes it, they play high line and are expected to casually play these short passes even in extreme pressure. Our defenders are very compact and pretty much covered by the midfield full time, plus most of our passes are safe choices spreading across the lines from one side to another, likes of Dante (Porto game...), Boateng etc try to make dumb risky short passes Pirlo tend to do for us instead of just the safe ones. And there's little coverage due to the nature of how he has set them up, its basically too many do or die scenarios if they lose the ball vs the quickest attackers around.
I agree in pretty much everything , but in this case I am not talking about defense in general , just talking about the player . He sucks imho , specifically on the second goal , he was one on one . I know that shit happens , but fuck me that was pathetic . I do think that even if he hadn't fallen messi would have still passed him , but his defending was wrong . I don't understand how he stays so high in that position , you know that your opponent might change direction (especially knowing that messi is in front of you) so you lower your center of gravity a bit to be prepared , but instead he stays tall which makes him fall like a bowling pin .
He defenitely failed there, quite dumb, but it doesnt start and stop with that individual error, thats what I'm saying. Look at Barca's first goal, text book case of being way too naive possession in your frigging defence and losing it to aggressive pressuring after casually trying to be cute with your passes. They controlled and adjusted to Barca's pressure for most of it, but it was so naive too that they played this ridicolous high line with little to no support for the individual defenders (they were miles away from eachother) in these breaking chances. It was all about just keeping the possession like good little soldiers, it worked for most of the time, but totally exposed themselves, lucky Barca missed as much as they did.
Its baffling at times Barca's attackers didnt take advantage of this more tho, even if Neuer was alert. I mean, look at this, so far from eachother and very high up, in a weird mix of trying to man mark your attacker plus try to play them offside at the same time, ended up in some weird limbo of something inbetween, total disorganised mess that just screamed failure (most of the way they contained Barca at first was due to discplined midfield possession):
Whats Boateng doing here?
And Rafinha here?
And finally poor Benatia, cant do shit here:
Talk about utter senseless confusion and unnecessary risky approach, all on Pep IMO.
Whats Boateng doing here?
And Rafinha here?
And finally poor Benatia, cant do shit here:
Talk about utter senseless confusion and unnecessary risky approach, all on Pep IMO.