[CL] Champions League 2012/13 (45 Viewers)
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No, a red card is a one game suspension automatically.
Anything else is applied via the particular league's violent conduct regulation.
In this case considering it's a first offense, the one game suspension is fine. The only thing I would do different is fine the team and issue a mandate against this sort of behavior attaching an established for of punishment to create precedent.
Anything else is applied via the particular league's violent conduct regulation.
In this case considering it's a first offense, the one game suspension is fine. The only thing I would do different is fine the team and issue a mandate against this sort of behavior attaching an established for of punishment to create precedent.
It depends on the league. In the Danish league a direct red card equals a two day suspension. 
I doubt that fining the teams will work. Usually the fines are ridiculously low. To be honest, suspensions seem to be the best punishment in football. At least to me.
I doubt that fining the teams will work. Usually the fines are ridiculously low. To be honest, suspensions seem to be the best punishment in football. At least to me.
@Nzoric
What he did was actually against the rules. Here is what law he broke:
Article 5k:
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/81/94/48/1819448_DOWNLOAD.pdf
Of course you could argue that what Shakhtar did wasn't behaving in an unsporting manner, but nobody of value has claimed that what they did wasn't wrong. Even Shakhtar's president has admitted their mistake. Basically, everybody including themself think that what they did was behaving in an unsporting manner.
So why shouldn't Shakhtar be punished? I'll admit that it's a shame that there isn't a specific ruling for this specific problem, but then again, it's impossible to make a rule for everything. This is the first time I've ever seen this happen, and it only happened because the referee wasn't smart enough to stop the incident. As I see it, what Shakhtar did was clearly wrong. There's a rule against behaving in an unsporting manner and they clearly broke it. Punishing Shakhtar is the only right thing to do.
The problem is that it's difficult to decide how to punish them. In my opinion, this wasn't only Luiz Adriano's fault. I think the whole Shakhtar team and especially the manager failed to act fair. However, you can't blame the rest of the team for not giving Nordsjælland a goal back afterwards because that is what the manager (Lucescu) should have told his team to do. So I think the manager should be punished as well. In my opinion, UEFA should have fined Shakhtar and given Luiz Adriano and Mircea Lucescu at least a 3 day ban each.
What he did was actually against the rules. Here is what law he broke:
Article 5k:
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/81/94/48/1819448_DOWNLOAD.pdf
Of course you could argue that what Shakhtar did wasn't behaving in an unsporting manner, but nobody of value has claimed that what they did wasn't wrong. Even Shakhtar's president has admitted their mistake. Basically, everybody including themself think that what they did was behaving in an unsporting manner.
So why shouldn't Shakhtar be punished? I'll admit that it's a shame that there isn't a specific ruling for this specific problem, but then again, it's impossible to make a rule for everything. This is the first time I've ever seen this happen, and it only happened because the referee wasn't smart enough to stop the incident. As I see it, what Shakhtar did was clearly wrong. There's a rule against behaving in an unsporting manner and they clearly broke it. Punishing Shakhtar is the only right thing to do.
The problem is that it's difficult to decide how to punish them. In my opinion, this wasn't only Luiz Adriano's fault. I think the whole Shakhtar team and especially the manager failed to act fair. However, you can't blame the rest of the team for not giving Nordsjælland a goal back afterwards because that is what the manager (Lucescu) should have told his team to do. So I think the manager should be punished as well. In my opinion, UEFA should have fined Shakhtar and given Luiz Adriano and Mircea Lucescu at least a 3 day ban each.
I checked Shakhtar's official site and read an interview with Lucescu. I don't know if he's trying to protect his team's image, but he implied that Shakhtar helped Nordjaelland score the second goal. He said that it would be too much of an unsportmanlike gesture to stand like statues and let Nordsjaelland score. According to him, his team didn't want to make it too obvious, but they did help the opponents score, without defending with 100%. He asked "don't you wonder why did Nords make 7 straight passes when they scored the goal, and they were never allowed to make so many straight passes before or after that goal?"
