[CL] Champions League 2011/12 (16 Viewers)

[acmilan]

Honestly, I can use the exact same rant for Serie A by replacing Barca with Milan.
The Bologna - Milan game this season. No matter what Di Vaio and Co did...

so, one game out of 30+ ... I assume there are other examples you can come up with considering all the whine you've been making all year long? Why don't you compile a list of all the non-existant PK's Milan were given, especially the decisive ones. When you are done, feel free to list the games where Milan lost pts because of ref mistakes and then, when you put the two together, you will see that all the complaining has been for practically nothing really.

maybe Alen could do the above, if he hasn't already, as he is usually pretty good and fair when it comes to these things, despite his hate for Milan

 

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[Fred]

oh, give yourself a break and don't go all jibber-jabberish on me now just 'cause you hate Milan.

You don't beat this Barca just 'cause you've managed to put them between a stone and a hard place 'cause the refs always come to their rescue in one way or another when it really matters.
Even an under-powered Milan team had Barca where they wanted them - chasing in the agg. result at the Camp Nou, looking clueless, having lost the momentum in the game and then boom - a manufactured PK from a dead-ball situation when players from both teams were doing shenanigans in PA, not just Nesta, away from the ball. Even if Milan had recovered from that blow and scored a 2nd equalizer, there was no way they were walking out of there as winners of the tie - the one message that has been echoing in the CL for years now is that the ref would have Barca's back whenever they needed it.

People here are not defending Milan, other than myself that is, but they simply are able to see the big picture that where Chelsea was yesterday and Milan is today, tomorrow it could well be Juventus on that same spot ... and if things keep their current course, it won't matter how much you run, or how tactically smart you are, or whether you outplay Barca or not because a PK or a RC for the other team is just a simulation or a refereeing "mistake" away.

end of rant.

They played a much better game than you all day long, and they had you pinned back in the final third for most of the game, your team had 3 shots, they had 21, how exactly did you deserve anything but a loss?

The penalty was soft, it was harsh, but to be honest, you guys got away with murder in the San Siro, so really things evened themselves out. Despite that, i really wished Messi would miss that penalty, just so that delusional Milan fans would have no excuses. I liked Seedorf and Allegri's comments after the game, they lamented the penalty decision but admitted that Milan had been second best all game long.

 

[Elvin]

so, one game out of 30+ ... I assume there are other examples you can come up with considering all the whine you've been making all year long? Why don't you compile a list of all the non-existant PK's Milan were given, especially the decisive ones. When you are done, feel free to list the games where Milan lost pts because of ref mistakes and then, when you put the two together, you will see that all the complaining has been for practically nothing really.

maybe Alen could do the above, if he hasn't already, as he is usually pretty good and fair when it comes to these things, despite his hate for Milan

That's the whole point, they will "seem" even up until Milan need just the right call, just in the right moment.

Sounds familiar?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

would be interesting to see how Juve fares in the CL, would make for a great atmosphere around here if we were to play you guys

you would get a ban for 3 days if arsenal won

 

[Alen]

The most annoying thing is how every single time Barca get away with a robbery, there are always so many people who say how Barca were much better anyway and how "they would have won even without the red card/penalty". Even the players of the losing teams say that ffs.

Barca were much better than us at Camp Nou in 2003. They badly outplayed us. Davids was red carded and we played with 10 for a good part of the match. Then Zala scored late in the ET and we proceeded to the semis.
I bet that if Barca were given a fake penalty in 70th minute many would have said that Barca would have proceeded anyway because they were superior to Juve.

 

[Elvin]

They played a much better game than you all day long, and they had you pinned back in the final third for most of the game, your team had 3 shots, they had 21, how exactly did you deserve anything but a loss?

The penalty was soft, it was harsh, but to be honest, you guys got away with murder in the San Siro, so really things evened themselves out. Despite that, i really wished Messi would miss that penalty, just so that delusional Milan fans would have no excuses. I liked Seedorf and Allegri's comments after the game, they lamented the penalty decision but admitted that Milan had been second best all game long.

exactly, I would understand the coplaining if they were actually robbed in every sense, but they had nothing to be robbed of... Chelsea had back then, Arsenal also, but Barca outplayed Milan... simple as that, and it was a fuckin penalty, you can own all the media in the world but rules are rules, it was a fuckin penalty.

---------- Post added 04.04.2012 at 15:52 ----------

The most annoying thing is how every single time Barca get away with a robbery, there are always so many people who say how Barca were much better anyway and how "they would have won even without the red card/penalty". Even the players of the losing teams say that ffs.

Barca were much better than us at Camp Nou in 2003. They badly outplayed us. Davids was red carded and we played with 10 for a good part of the match. Then Zala scored late in the ET and we proceeded to the semis.
I bet that if Barca were given a fake penalty in 70th minute many would have said that Barca would have proceeded anyway because they were superior to Juve.

Wait a min, Barca did outplay Milan, but not Chelsea and Arsenal -- those teams were robbed, and it annoys me that Milan's performance is put in the same line as those two teams'. They use those two games to hide the fact that, honestly they had no chance in this tie ever.

 

[Alen]

you can own all the media in the world but rules are rules, it was a fuckin penalty.

Milan had some 3-4 corner kicks. I'd really like to have a close look at the Barca defenders in the box and if they pulled shirts or not. I'm ready to bet that they did because every team does it in every set piece situation.

 

[Fake Melo]

Those 10-15 minutes between Del Piero's goal for 2:1 and Drogba's late equalizer were probably the most exciting minutes post-Calciopoli.
Man, CL really gives different emotions. I'm so happy we're back there next year.

Tell me about it. Can't fucking wait to get back in CL.

 

[Fred]

The most annoying thing is how every single time Barca get away with a robbery, there are always so many people who say how Barca were much better anyway and how "they would have won even without the red card/penalty". Even the players of the losing teams say that ffs.

Barca were much better than us at Camp Nou in 2003. They badly outplayed us. Davids was red carded and we played with 10 for a good part of the match. Then Zala scored late in the ET and we proceeded to the semis.
I bet that if Barca were given a fake penalty in 70th minute many would have said that Barca would have proceeded anyway because they were superior to Juve.

lol at Barca 2003, current Barca is a whole different ball game. You remember Van Persie's red card last year? i didn't complain about that because it was obvious that they would win, you can deny it all you want, but we were being outplayed badly, and Barca always scores in the end.

IMO ever since Guardiola took over, Chelsea are the only team that have a right to say they were knocked out by Barca purely because of refereeing mistakes, the rest can cry a river, but they were always going out (Arsenal included).

 

[Firestarter]

lol at Barca 2003, current Barca is a whole different ball game. You remember Van Persie's red card last year? i didn't complain about that because it was obvious that they would win, you can deny it all you want, but we were being outplayed badly, and Barca always scores in the end.

IMO ever since Guardiola took over, Chelsea are the only team that have a right to say they were knocked out by Barca purely because of refereeing mistakes, the rest can cry a river, but they were always going out (Arsenal included).

Are you bitter about Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Marc Overmars and Henry?

Check my post in Ligue 1 thread.

 

[Elvin]

Milan had some 3-4 corner kicks. I'd really like to have a close look at the Barca defenders in the box and if they pulled shirts or not. I'm ready to bet that they did because every team does it in every set piece situation.

again, im gonna say it again for me as a Juve fan there is no reason whatsoever to hate Barca, non, all those talks that someday Juve could be in Chel, Real, Arsenal's shoes are hypothetical, and honestly I wouldn't complain the way Milan fans are doing today, because you just don't pull shirts that blatantly, you just don't... Mesbah got away with it, but Nesta didn't...

 

[Gerd]

haha ok. so I guess that's where that got the name from. I remember we had that in Albania too.

in albania it is made with spaghetti and yogurt

 

[Mr.Milanista]

Once again fucked in the bunghole by the referee.

 

[Fred]

Are you bitter about Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Marc Overmars and Henry?

Check my post in Ligue 1 thread.

I'm mad about the way they conducted themselves in the Cesc saga, the Henry one was professional but it hurt to be honest, Overmars was a huge loss too. As for GVB he was kind of like a bribe we gave them to make them shut up about the Cesc saga earlier

will check it out

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Once again fucked in the bunghole by the referee.

waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Alen]

You remember Van Persie's red card last year? i didn't complain about that because it was obvious that they would win, you can deny it all you want, but we were being outplayed badly, and Barca always scores in the end.

And you are absolutely sure that Barca were gonna score 2 goals and win 3:1 so the match wouldn't go to penalties if Van Persie wasn't red carded?
It's because of people like you that Barca easily get away with robberies.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

strangely enough i put barca to win by 2 goals on my betting slip and messi to score first

 

[Fred]

And you are absolutely sure that Barca were gonna score 2 goals and win 3:1 so the match wouldn't go to penalties if Van Persie wasn't red carded?
It's because of people like you that Barca easily get away with robberies.

I don't know if you watched the match, or if you did watch the match if you remember it.

We didn't even score the equalizing goal, they scored it for us , other than that, we were getting hammered all game long and couldn't string three passes together, we most probably wouldn't have been able to resist the pressure.

Plus, lets not forget that like Milan this season, they had a few calls going against them in the first leg, people tend to conveniently forget or ignore those thouggh. In our case, Messi had a goal wrongfully disallowed and a penalty on Arshavin not given.

 

[Zamperini]

Wow so many kids in here. Why the **** do you guys not support the other Italian teams when they play out in Europe? This is not about supporting any Milano team but collecting enough points together to keep up with the number of qualifications for CL/UL.

 

[Elvin]

Wow so many kids in here. Why the **** do you guys not support the other Italian teams when they play out in Europe? This is not about supporting any Milano team but collecting enough points together to keep up with the number of qualifications for CL/UL.

Italy should've thought about that when they relegated Juventus. So no, I will not care for coefficients. I'm not even Italian, why would I even give a shit?