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Aug 17, 2007
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blʘndu;3600248 said:
this is not even close enough to the 2nd yellow for van persie...
:lol:

Please don't start. I'm getting angry again. The funny thing is that some weeks ago I watched gays' match with my brother, who's a fan, and Iniesta/Pedro/Someone shot after the whistle. The commentator said:"There's gonna be a yellow here?", and my brother shouted:"What yellow? for this? He didn't hear the whistle!!!".

:lol:

It's not a 1st yellow when it comes to Barca, But it's red card for sure against them. The biggest ref scandals in history happend in favour of this team, this is one of them.

Btw, tonight, just as the ref whistled, I screamed:"No fucking way Nesta would do such stupid foul!". Of course I was right.
 

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Juventino[RUS];3600245 said:
IT'S NOT A PENALTY, BECAUSE AT FIRST IT WAS FOUL ON NESTA BY PUYOL
You can't see from that angle, but I believe Nesta was holding Busquets before Puyol got involved. Puyol's involvement just increased the space between Nesta and Busquets, so the shirt-pull became more obvious.

You'd have a stronger case for saying it shouldn't be a penalty because the foul was basically committed before the ball was in play.

Techncally, doesnt say much, as in italy, england, germany and france, it will never be given

perhaps in spain, perhaps


So if a player trows the ball a few yards forward, it should allways be placed on the exact spot of the foul ? technically correct, altho only executed when the "a few yards forward" is actually like over 10 meters.
I'm suggesting that it's the sort of rule that is only enforced when the referee really wants to i.e. when it enables him to favour a particular side without actually making a wrong decision.

It's being biased within the rules of the game, if you like.

I'd never award a penalty for pulling that is nowhere near the ball.
 
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blʘndu;3600254 said:
Atletico got screwd in this match twice. Falcao ran to score, all alone, twice, and the ref stopped him twice for offside. There was no offside, of course.

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Ok, so that's;

Chelsea
Arsenal
Madrid
and now Milan

$#@! off and die Barca.
Inter too. No red card for Motta.
 

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DPS are you a closet Milan fan, i see you defending them more than you do for Juve ??

Praising their players, " Legends", coach, never seen you do that for Juve.
 

Gerd

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You can't see from that angle, but I believe Nesta was holding Busquets before Puyol got involved. Puyol's involvement just increased the space between Nesta and Busquets, so the shirt-pull became more obvious.

You'd have a stronger case for saying it shouldn't be a penalty because the foul was basically committed before the ball was in play.



I'm suggesting that it's the sort of rule that is only enforced when the referee really wants to i.e. when it enables him to favour a particular side without actually making a wrong decision.

I'd never award a penalty for pulling that is nowhere near the ball.
I agree with everything , to make an example .
Naples penalty against us , the ref made them take it again because someone entered the box , tecnically by the rules it is a foul and should be given , but i bet my balls that from 100 refs 99 wouldn't have made naples take that penalty again , i don't remember anyone complaining about that , everyone said it is the rule
 
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DPS are you a closet Milan fan, i see you defending them more than you do for Juve ??

Praising their players, " Legends", coach, never seen you do that for Juve.
No, but:

1. I hate Barca like you wouldn't believe.
2. I like Allegri for years now, since he coached Cagliari. Wanted him in Juve.
3. Seedorf and Nesta are legends, I don't care if they play for our rivals. I have just respect for them.
 

Luca

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You can't see from that angle, but I believe Nesta was holding Busquets before Puyol got involved. Puyol's involvement just increased the space between Nesta and Busquets, so the shirt-pull became more obvious.
Yup, the shirt pulling was going on before then and it's quite clear to see from the movement of Nesta's shirt that Sergio.B was at it just as much. Puyol by impeding Nesta gave Sergio.B the opportunity to do what he does best and play foul. in almost every case the referee would just tell the players off and make the corner be retaken.
 
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Without this joke decision of the ref, Milan would have qualify. Barca suffered a serious mental blow with the equaliser, they looked kinda lost to me. And Catenaccio for 50 minutes isn't a big problem for Milan. Plus, Messi, like always vs. Italian teams, looked like shit, scared and shaky, fucking up every chance he got.
 

donpiero

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I'm really glad Milan got kicked out of the CL specially like this, by a dubious goal,(after all their disgusting behavior this year and that mofo Allegri saying Marotta should shut up and all that) one of the best nights of my life. :D

Also I can't believe you guys are really considering a conspiracy theory in favor of barca! sure the refs are kinda biased towards them but taking it to a whole other level is just crazy.
As Red said they'll really start to crack against well organized pressing, so I think Real, if concentrated, and Bayern can beat them, with or without refs favoring them.
 
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