Ciro Ferrara (9 Viewers)

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,931
I have faith ciro can turn things around, hopefully this break will bring out a new juventus. It would be pointless sacking and bring someone else, let it grow, let them gel, let them for f sake go out and play with each other, they need to go back to the roots this break could do wonders.. or maybe im just dreaming but either way I think its only right if we gave ciro and the players that little more time to reflect. We aint gonna win anything this season, but by bringing someone new aint gonna change things dramatically either and no guus hiddink aint gonna come, whilst some of the other replacement names aint exactly mouth watering. I dont believe ciro is all to blame and I agree with some of the earliar comments a coach is only as good as their players. This is really some sorta mental issue, they needa cold shower, a beating, maybe some family love or just a good rest i dont know but something to keep themselfs humble and focused. My only concern and hope here is that ciro learns from this and comes back better. Forza Ciro..
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
I have faith ciro can turn things around, hopefully this break will bring out a new juventus. It would be pointless sacking and bring someone else, let it grow, let them gel, let them for f sake go out and play with each other, they need to go back to the roots this break could do wonders.. or maybe im just dreaming but either way I think its only right if we gave ciro and the players that little more time to reflect. We aint gonna win anything this season, but by bringing someone new aint gonna change things dramatically either and no guus hiddink aint gonna come, whilst some of the other replacement names aint exactly mouth watering. I dont believe ciro is all to blame and I agree with some of the earliar comments a coach is only as good as their players. This is really some sorta mental issue, they needa cold shower, a beating, maybe some family love or just a good rest i dont know but something to keep themselfs humble and focused. My only concern and hope here is that ciro learns from this and comes back better. Forza Ciro..
1. You're definitely dreaming

2. The coach has a world class team on paper. If the players are world class and the performances are rubbish, then the players have come down to the coach's level - i.e Rubbish
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
Dunga and Corvino have come out and slammed Ciro, our supposed "coach"

When is this board going to get a clue and bring in the experienced Hiddink...if they dont, I say get rid of them all, and let Bettega run the show, and make ALL the decisions on what happens to Juve
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
I am fed up with this bullshit routine of supporting Ferrara...for two more games now. If he had a history as a decent coach, and was seemingly going through some form of crisis, but we had history to remind us that he will come good, then fine...i could understand sticking with him. But this is not the case. There is NOTHING to suggest that Ciro will steer us out of the darkness, into the light. And this season so far, has shown the worst Juve I have ever seen...in nearly 20 years of supporting the club. I didn't like us under Capello, but we were very hard to beat and successful. That is the point...Like Ranieri is doing at Roma. He has made them horrible to watch, but results wise, their improvement under his stewardship has been immense. With Ciro, we have neither wonderful to watch or RESULTS ORIENTATED football.

We have...a shambles. I sincerely hope that massive effort is being put into finding a new coach. Either to bring in shortly, or to bring in during the summer. Even so, with a summer coach lined up, I would still rather see someone else managing the team, a coach who has PROVEN experience at winning games. At managing players. Tactically capable as well as man management capable. Ciro lacks these two prime requirements. Clearly. And persevering with him is only going to send us deeper into the abyss.

His willingness to continue is hardly commendable, nor inspiring. He has failed. And we have become worse than what we were under Ranieri. Despite the large outlay of $$$$ during the summer.

Its fair enough to suggest that he needs time. But the expectations of Juventus, are not in line with a creche for rookie managers.

If Hiddink isn't available, we should aim for Gasperini. He is a juventino, and despite his contract at Genoa, I have little doubt that he would be willing to take on what would be a dream job. He can bring Criscito with him if he likes...

I respect Ciro still as the player he was, but as a manager he has shown nothing of value, everything worthy of contempt and pity...and I dont want to be pitying the manager of the team I love with heart and soul.
 

da_ledgeaun

The Juve Freak
Jun 2, 2007
6,611
I am fed up with this bullshit routine of supporting Ferrara...for two more games now. If he had a history as a decent coach, and was seemingly going through some form of crisis, but we had history to remind us that he will come good, then fine...i could understand sticking with him. But this is not the case. There is NOTHING to suggest that Ciro will steer us out of the darkness, into the light. And this season so far, has shown the worst Juve I have ever seen...in nearly 20 years of supporting the club. I didn't like us under Capello, but we were very hard to beat and successful. That is the point...Like Ranieri is doing at Roma. He has made them horrible to watch, but results wise, their improvement under his stewardship has been immense. With Ciro, we have neither wonderful to watch or RESULTS ORIENTATED football.

We have...a shambles. I sincerely hope that massive effort is being put into finding a new coach. Either to bring in shortly, or to bring in during the summer. Even so, with a summer coach lined up, I would still rather see someone else managing the team, a coach who has PROVEN experience at winning games. At managing players. Tactically capable as well as man management capable. Ciro lacks these two prime requirements. Clearly. And persevering with him is only going to send us deeper into the abyss.

His willingness to continue is hardly commendable, nor inspiring. He has failed. And we have become worse than what we were under Ranieri. Despite the large outlay of $$$$ during the summer.

Its fair enough to suggest that he needs time. But the expectations of Juventus, are not in line with a creche for rookie managers.

If Hiddink isn't available, we should aim for Gasperini. He is a juventino, and despite his contract at Genoa, I have little doubt that he would be willing to take on what would be a dream job. He can bring Criscito with him if he likes...

I respect Ciro still as the player he was, but as a manager he has shown nothing of value, everything worthy of contempt and pity...and I dont want to be pitying the manager of the team I love with heart and soul.
nicely put..
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
Scolari is a decent coach who has had a lot of success. He faltered with chelsea, but I have the impression that his heart hasn't been totally into football for a while now. Perhaps from a little before he left Portugal. He has given his best, in his earlier years. The mind, but not the heart for it.

Gentile. Far too little experience to be given such an important job. A decent stint as U21 manager, but other than that?????

Gus is the ideal choice. Without any doubt. He has experience, drive and intelligence.

Zacheroni...No sign of consistent real talent in what he has done so far in his career.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,370
I do not want somebody who do not have the heart for the job they are doing. Exactly why I wouldn't want Scholari anywhere near Juve's bench. He is doing it for the money and he has said so himself. Look at Fergusson at ManU, the guy is as old as Rome but still jumps about like a newcomer. He has also won everything but he still has the heart.
I'd love Guus. He seems to like challenges and he might put us on the right track. The only doubt I have is him not wanting to stay long which is a real possibility.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Look, if there ever had to be an ideal replacement for Ferrara, then there's no two ways about it. No, it's not Guus Hiddink, it's Gian Piero Gasperini. He has almost consistently delivered, whether at the primavera level or at his time in Genoa. His Juventini background is a huge plus, as is his reading of the game. Though Hiddink will be great right now, he in no way represents long term stability for what some call the 'project' or in this case the lack thereof.

Scolari would be a bigger disaster here than he was at Chelsea. Gentile doesnt inspire much confidence either. And Zaccheroni should'nt even bother making himself available.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,370
Look, if there ever had to be an ideal replacement for Ferrara, then there's no two ways about it. No, it's not Guus Hiddink, it's Gian Piero Gasperini. He has almost consistently delivered, whether at the primavera level or at his time in Genoa. His Juventini background is a huge plus, as is his reading of the game. Though Hiddink will be great right now, he in no way represents long term stability for what some call the 'project' or in this case the lack thereof.

Scolari would be a bigger disaster here than he was at Chelsea. Gentile doesnt inspire much confidence either. And Zaccheroni should'nt even bother making himself available.
Gasperini cannot coach Juve this season as he has already coached one team in Serie A this season.
 

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