Ciro Ferrara (29 Viewers)

[Mohad]

Ciro isn't experienced enough but we already knew that coming into the season when we signed him on so you can't blame him. If we wanted to challenge for titles this year we would have gone out and gotten a coach who has a track record of winning. So better get used to these growing pains and maybe next season he will better understand the rigors of playing in 3 competitions and will get the players necessary to challenge for some silverware.

 

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[KB824]

His teams seem to be inconsistent and some of his decisions haven't made sense to me. Prandelli is certainly better than most Italian managers though.

Who would you take? Prandelli or Hiddink?

That is a tough one. Hiddink has a long track record of success, but to be honest, he is up there in age now, and I would question his long term commitment to the Juve project. With the exception of his time in Holland, he seems to be the type that wears out his welcome. He is very rarely in one spot for more than 2 seasons.

I'm certainly not questioning his coaching abilities.


Prandelli, on the other hand, has the type of attribute that I find commendable in a coach. Such as, his abiality to coach young talent, his ability to do "more with less", and let's face it, the fact that he is a juventino certainly doesn't hurt.

I would say its 50-50 at this point, and I wouldn't complain with either one.

Put a gun to my head though, I would choose Prandelli

 

[Daddi]

He coaches for Fiorentina. Your "No titles" argument would hold water if he were the coach of Juve, Inter, Milan, or one of the European powers, but Fiorentina is not a European power.

But I'll tell you this. That team is a lot better ever since he came on board. And how exactly is a 4th place,6th place (with a 15 point deduction), 4th place, 4th place, and now currently in 4th place finish "inconsistent"? Along with 3 CL qualifications and a UEFA Cup semifinal that Christian Vieri happen to choke during the penalty kicks?

And also, let's not disregard his eye for young talent and reclamation projects, such as Jovetic, Vargas, Melo, Gilardino and Mutu

I just want a coach that will make us win again, and I don't know if Prandelli is that man. When Capello arrived, I knew we would be a title winning team, since he is one of the best coaches around. Whenever I've seen fiorentina play, they choked vs. Inter, Milan, Roma and us. Too many defeats and draws. But Prandelli is talented and If he were to coach a great team, maybe he'd be a success. Too bad we arent't an attractive club anymore (hope that changes.)

 

[Holdon]

I think that the reason is three-fold

#1) He was familiar with the inner workings
#2) The board had a comfort level with him
#3) He was cheap.

I don't think that it was something of a revolutionary move on their part, more like a matter of convenience

I agree with your reasoning to their logic.

However, this is Juventus, not Siena. Maybe they were confused.

 

[Bjerknes]

That is a tough one. Hiddink has a long track record of success, but to be honest, he is up there in age now, and I would question his long term commitment to the Juve project. With the exception of his time in Holland, he seems to be the type that wears out his welcome. He is very rarely in one spot for more than 2 seasons.

I'm certainly not questioning his coaching abilities.


Prandelli, on the other hand, has the type of attribute that I find commendable in a coach. Such as, his abiality to coach young talent, his ability to do "more with less", and let's face it, the fact that he is a juventino certainly doesn't hurt.

I would say its 50-50 at this point, and I wouldn't complain with either one.

Put a gun to my head though, I would choose Prandelli

I believe that everything you said about Prandelli applies to Hiddink as well, minus the Juve part.

 

[Stephan]

That is a tough one. Hiddink has a long track record of success, but to be honest, he is up there in age now, and I would question his long term commitment to the Juve project. With the exception of his time in Holland, he seems to be the type that wears out his welcome. He is very rarely in one spot for more than 2 seasons.

If we talk about getting Hiddink NOW, then these age reasons have nothing to do with this.

We can then see next summer who will we get.

Hiddink saved Chelseas last season.

He can save our season as well.

Prandelli wont quit Fiorentina at this moment in time for Juve.

 

[Tomice]

Prandelli, there is somthing about him for sure,

The way his players convinced him to stay and coach them after his tragedy tells you something about him.

From the Italians coaches out there he is by far the best one, and the most ready.
I would hate to see an old school italian coach here bar Lippi.

About Hiddink, it is true he dosent stay in one place for long, but there is no dispute over his class.
After mother Russia was kicked out from the WC I think he is the best available option out there, Prandelli wont leave mid season.

 

[Dostoevsky]

What is it that you don't like about his coaching abilities?
I'm seriously asking because I really have no idea about him as a coach. The only thing I know is that he led a super talented Barca team to the CL, but I didn't pay much attention to his style.

All I'm saying is that, even if it doesn't have to be Rijkaard, someone who went through the Ajax, Barca and Milan school, will have to be too dumb not to know how to implement that knowledge.
Maybe such a revolution is needed in the Italian teams? Different style, and even more, the style that brings success in Europe.

I think he was just a statue in Barcelona, next to amazing 11 players that led them to victory. As you said before, they all come out of the same school, they know each other and they don't need a lot of things from coach to rape some other team. They were just that good. Sometimes I joke when I say that I could lead that, or this Barca, but it's just the essence.

I think Pepe is doing a better job but I'd probably avoid him too. When he shows his worth in some other club I'd consider him but this way, no thank you.

I might be wrong, I get surprised when I see so many people hailing him. I'll judge again when he goes to EPL or comes to Serie A but I don't think he'll succeed.

 

[Stephan]

“The next few games won't change our project, we will stick to it,” said the patron.

“I saw my boys really mad. This hunger and rage can be turned into great results.

“Many big clubs have been suffering from a deep crisis. That's the way football works but we will get out of this tunnel.”

- Jean Claude Blanc

FUCK, I guess they are sticking with Ciro.

Dont be silly. President of the club isnt supposed to come all guns out on his manager.

Of course i have my doubts about Blanc as well, but considering our transfer market, and the fact that "we have been here before", i am hoping that we wont tolerate mediocrity for too long.

We have spend a lot in the summer. Now we need the results to show that it was worth spending.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Prandelli wont quit Fiorentina at this moment in time for Juve.

Even if he quits he can coach any Serie A team till the end of the season.

 

[KB824]

I just want a coach that will make us win again, and I don't know if Prandelli is that man. When Capello arrived, I knew we would be a title winning team, since he is one of the best coaches around. Whenever I've seen fiorentina play, they choked vs. Inter, Milan, Roma and us. Too many defeats and draws. But Prandelli is talented and If he were to coach a great team, maybe he'd be a success. Too bad we arent't an attractive club anymore (hope that changes.)

I wouldn't underestimate the name brand that Juventus still carries. I think that they are an attractive club. Loyal fan base, a team on paper that has a lot of good players, and the opportunity to bring this club back to its former glory would be attractive qualities, I believe.

Certainly more attractive than 3 years ago

 

[Tomice]

I think that the reason is three-fold

#1) He was familiar with the inner workings
#2) The board had a comfort level with him
#3) He was cheap.

I don't think that it was something of a revolutionary move on their part, more like a matter of convenience

#4) They wanted a "yes" man

 

[Bjerknes]

Rijkaard just let his Barca play. Who could blame him? He had the best squad without a doubt, so letting them work their magic on their own was a smart move instead of tying them down to a strict system.

Would this work at Juve? Ummm...

 

[KB824]

If we talk about getting Hiddink NOW, then these age reasons have nothing to do with this.

We can then see next summer who will we get.

Hiddink saved Chelseas last season.

He can save our season as well.

Prandelli wont quit Fiorentina at this moment in time for Juve.

I'm not so much concerned about his age. Well, I am a little. Running a national team is far different than the day in, day out responsibilites of running a club, but I do question whether or not he would be committed over the long haul. A lot of people want a quick fix solution to the coaching problem, but I would prefer a coach with more long term goals as well

 

[Dostoevsky]

Rijkaard just let his Barca play. Who could blame him? He had the best squad without a doubt, so letting them work their magic on their own was a smart move instead of tying them down to a strict system.

Would this work at Juve? Ummm...

Yes, it's how I saw Rijkaard.

But so many people want him cause he won CL and La Liga...

 

[Tomice]

Rijkaard just let his Barca play. Who could blame him? He had the best squad without a doubt, so letting them work their magic on their own was a smart move instead of tying them down to a strict system.

Would this work at Juve? Ummm...

Yeah, Let Molinaro work his magic

He is too damm talnted to be limited by his talent

 

[KB824]

Rijkaard just let his Barca play. Who could blame him? He had the best squad without a doubt, so letting them work their magic on their own was a smart move instead of tying them down to a strict system.

Would this work at Juve? Ummm...

But therein lies the problem for someonle like Rijkaard. You said it perfectly. He probably had the best team in the world during his tenure. There are a lot of coaches out there that if they had that kind of talent, could just let them loose and play.

Juve is nowhere close to the level that Barcelona wasduring his tenure there.

For a coach to be succesful here, he would not only have to be confident and consistent with his formations and tactics, but he would also have to have a keen eye for talent, to get the young stars on the cheap, in other words.

Its unfortunate, but good business sense, that Juve do not have an open checkbook to just sign anybody they want. Someone who is a nurturer as well as a coach would have to be a prerequisite in order to be successful at Juventus.

 

[Stephan]

I'm not so much concerned about his age. Well, I am a little. Running a national team is far different than the day in, day out responsibilites of running a club, but I do question whether or not he would be committed over the long haul. A lot of people want a quick fix solution to the coaching problem, but I would prefer a coach with more long term goals as well

At this time we cant really think about long term fix. Ciro was supposed to be the long term fix. And look where we got.

Chelsea: Scolari lasts half a year, gets sacked, Hiddink is appointed. Chelsea go on and almost make the CL final, win the FA cup. Then he gets replaced by Ancelotti in the summer.

We can get Hiddink for now, then in the summer look for a long term option. You cant really look for a long term options in the situation we are right now.

 

[Holdon]

Nothing concrete, but mildly interesting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...us-Hiddink-defeat-deals-blow-title-hopes.html

 

[Orgut]

Is it possible signing Guus as a replacement for Ferrara this January?