Ciro Ferrara (12 Viewers)

Brandmon

Juventuz irregular
Aug 13, 2008
1,406
The problem is when the team is underperforming Ciro does not know how to react.
The problem as I see it is that when Ciro doesn't have the planned players available, he doesn't know what the fuck to do. I noticed that whenever we played badly, we always had some of our most effective players injured.

At the end of last season we had a good list of players and a small number of injuries and after months of Ranieri fucking around, Ferrara actually done a good job. At the start of the season we actually made a promising start and most of you would remember the great beating we done against Roma. But then players were getting injured, especially in the midfield. We had to play without Marchisio, Sissoko, etc. And the last game we did great, against Sampdoria, we actually had a great lineup with a solid midfield. But come Napoli and Sissoko is injured and Camo is taken off mid game and replaced with Tiago and Poulsen. Then we start falling apart! I simply find the frequency of injuries appalling.
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,129
Ferrara seems to coach like playing FM. How on earth he can change formation every time. Is it FM that players don't need time to adapt with the formation and tactics. In one game, he can change 4-3-1-2 to 4-4-2 or today from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-1-2. Also rotating the players

His substitution make me confused. In one time, he can bring all the forward to replace the creative player and in other he can bring the defensive minded player to replace the attacking minded player when we need a goal.
 

SABSAB

Snoop Stinks
Dec 10, 2008
10,832
Ferrara seems to coach like playing FM. How on earth he can change formation every time. Is it FM that players don't need time to adapt with the formation and tactics. In one game, he can change 4-3-1-2 to 4-4-2 or today from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-1-2. Also rotating the players

His substitution make me confused. In one time, he can bring all the forward to replace the creative player and in other he can bring the defensive minded player to replace the attacking minded player when we need a goal.
He didn't change the formation boy. Tiago is not a winger and performed bad so he couldn't play the Camo role properly which maybe make you think he did change the formation.
The questionable thing is why was Rossi not on the bench to help us in exactly this situation when someone gets injured.
 

abejaa

Senior Member
Sep 25, 2006
1,665
I decided not to post anymore since last ban, but seeing ferrara changing 10423423423 million formations in last 20 minutes it's hard and tell us that he doesn't know shiit about football. Every player he brings in change formation and of course the players who were playing they were lost didn't know what to do, except Chiellini who became a striker.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,797
Quit blaming Ciro for this loss. What the hell do you expect him to do in a game like that.
when our defense is slow as fuck and times, bar giorgio, canna is our fastest defender.

ranieri, how many games did we lose with him in total last season?
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
Guys, please tell me that Giovinco asked to be subbed out and that's why De Ceglie replaced him.

Because at 2:3, with 5 minutes to go, to take an AM out for a wing back is the most ridiculous move one could do. That's what Andy calls football terrorism.

Even if Ferrara didn't have options on the bench (he had an attacker, Immobile, didn't he?) then he should have put De Ceglie in for a defender or even for Buffon for heaven's sake, but not for an attacking player. We were supposed to score a fucking goal, not defend a lead.
Merely a sub with hope, someone who could provide more width because all the Napoli players were congesting the center and Gio was spent and losing his touch since about the 75th minute.

He could've brought Immobile but he isn't the best crosser and we had trezi, amauri and chiellini in the box.
 

abejaa

Senior Member
Sep 25, 2006
1,665
Merely a sub with hope, someone who could provide more width because all the Napoli players were congesting the center and Gio was spent and losing his touch since about the 75th minute.

He could've brought Immobile but he isn't the best crosser and we had trezi, amauri and chiellini in the box.
and chiellini how could you forget him :p!
 

classicalmania

Junior Member
Jun 20, 2009
159
Quit blaming Ciro for this loss. What the hell do you expect him to do in a game like that.
Well at least he should have told Grygera to stay at the back, told Tiaga to stick to Grygera, and told the two DMs to stay closer to the back line, told Poulsen/Melo to protect the right flank more, and told the whole team to slow down the tempo, keep more possession, do not going forwards in mass to avoid being stung by their counter attacks and pay more attention.
We a JUVENTUS, not Siena FFS. It's not like we are so weak that we can't do anything to protect a 2-0 lead at home!
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
very few of ferrara's changes ever seem to make sense, maybe ranieri rubbed off on him. That said we cant expect miracles with players that wouldn't start for Hull City on the pitch. This team has completely lost the fighting spirit that used to make us unique. We used to score last minute goals, now we concede them almost every game
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
yep guys..the biggest mistake is probably using tiago who is making a fool of himself...maybe it's a bod decision..keep up the tiago to sell him with more money at winter...but he is ruining juve. Marrone and rossi are a must on the bench when we have so many injuries.
 

classicalmania

Junior Member
Jun 20, 2009
159
very few of ferrara's changes ever seem to make sense, maybe ranieri rubbed off on him. That said we cant expect miracles with players that wouldn't start for Hull City on the pitch. This team has completely lost the fighting spirit that used to make us unique. We used to score last minute goals, now we concede them almost every game
Agree with you that the team has lost the old Juve spirit at times. That was also one of the points that I tried to make in a few posts in another thread http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2202114&postcount=541 http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2202118&postcount=542 . However I think it is only a temporary problem and the team will soon find their own fighting spirit if they are rightly motivated. The bigger problem is whether Ferrara can motivate them to do that.
 

AV-7

Junior Member
Jul 8, 2009
362
After 2-0 Ferrara should have switched to 4-4-1-1. And the team should have kept possession by controlling the midfield with small passes.
 

JuventinMalti

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2006
575
I think part of the problem is physical. All these injuries cannot possibly be explained through mere chance. It's insane, every week we have a player out for a month or so.

I was really impressed with the tempo of the game in the first half, we conceded some space to Napoli but on the whole we were moving the ball around well. On the other hand, 10 minutes in the second half we looked exhausted. And by exhausted I don't mean not able to run. That kind of tiredness is when a player really cannot move anymore. By tiredness I mean when we start giving away the ball cheaply, inaccurate elementary passes and a general lack of sharpness and edge. That is when the team suffers, and suffers big time.
 

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