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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,146
who cares about the right side, we were pummeling them from the left flank...if Iaquinta and Amauri had half a decent touch between them, we would have been 3-1 up at the break
Yeah, who cares about the right side.

There is nothing wrong with three midfielders like Sissoko, Melo and Poulsen today but you need another line in front of them to do produce some game.

Diego alone won't pull the trick, put someone next to him, Giovinco or Camo.
There is something wrong when you can't produce anything on the right-flank.

Honestly, we created nothing on the right side with Sissoko and Grygera out there.

If we have a team that is supposedly trying to play sound attacking football from all sides, you need to produce from all angles. Sissoko and Poulsen add little offensively.
 

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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Yeah, who cares about the right side.



There is something wrong when you can't produce anything on the right-flank.

Honestly, we created nothing on the right side with Sissoko and Grygera out there.

If we have a team that is supposedly trying to play sound attacking football from all sides, you need to produce from all angles. Sissoko and Poulsen add little offensively.
But it's not Sissoko's fault. It's Grygera who's inept.
You either play Zebina when Sissoko is on or play Camo when Grygera is playing. We are wounded in that department and the best way is to balance the deficit.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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I think today with Vargas playing LW even Zebi would have struggled going forward. But i still take Zebi over Grygera, just better player overall, quite underrated by some fans.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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But it's not Sissoko's fault. It's Grygera who's inept.
You either play Zebina when Sissoko is on or play Camo when Grygera is playing. We are wounded in that department and the best way is to balance the deficit.
That's my point, basically. We need Camoranesi to start, or somebody else who can create in midfield. It's not Sissoko's fault he passes the ball like a retard, but that means we need to drop a DM for somebody who doesn't or else can drive up the right side.

It's quite obvious this is problematic, and I don't know why people aren't pointing towards this more. When we don't have class attacking fullbacks, we will suffer with three DM's thrown across the pitch.
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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For the first time in my life I put almost the complete blame on the coach. He's simply not up to this job. The team is way much bigger than he can handle and we can see that by what he's doing to Diego also giving him a job bigger than he can handle.

We obviously need to change our system and Ferrara is simply refusing to do so. Diego needs someone next to him to help him execute his game. Neither Amauri nor Iaquinta can do that, not Trezeguet either. And we don't have the time to wait for Del Piero. We have two other options though, either Giovinco or Camoransi can do the job but it's obviously to be done at the price of one of the forwards.

It is Ferrara's fault he's not seeing that. We get easily pushed back because we can't play up front. He's still relying on full backs that are not up to the task either.

He'd better change the system or he'd better be changed.
And there lies the key. I like Ferrara a lot, but he does seem very prejudiced and not at all flexible in terms of formation & selected personnel. So prejudiced even that he might not even realise what he's doing wrong.


It's easy to beat us. Just let 2 defensive midfielders take care of Diego and we're nothing basically.
That is painfully obvious. We are still an extremely tough team to beat (let's forget the Palermo game for a minute), but we are a lot easier to stop than we have been for as long as I can remember.


Today's midfield was not fine. 3 DMs at home to Fiorentina?
Thing is, did we really play 3 DM's? I happen to think we didn't.
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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Sissoko mostly played as a box to box player, or at least tried. Somewhat his usual style of play. Imo, definitely not a "regular" DM kind of player.

Melo was our DM most of the time.

Poulsen was a bit like Sissoko in terms of positioning & running patterns, but obviously a lot more composed. Actually played more as a CM than as a straightforward DM.


To me, it's not only the personnel you play, but also the way how you employ them. Poulsen being a prime example today.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Well, this brings up an interesting point. If Sissoko isn't a DM, but rather a box to box midfielder, he is probably one of the worst I've seen in a Juve jersey then. He makes Manuele Blasi look like an artist with the ball.

This isn't hyperbole. Sissoko needs to improve his passing. He can be the best defensive player ever, but if he gives the ball away every time he gets it, our midfield play is suddenly ruined. It's not like he has a Pirlo to give the ball to like Gattuso.
 

The Curr

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Feb 3, 2007
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Sissoko mostly played as a box to box player, or at least tried. Somewhat his usual style of play. Imo, definitely not a "regular" DM kind of player.

Melo was our DM most of the time.

Poulsen was a bit like Sissoko in terms of positioning & running patterns, but obviously a lot more composed. Actually played more as a CM than as a straightforward DM.


To me, it's not only the personnel you play, but also the way how you employ them. Poulsen being a prime example today.
You're right. We didn't have 3 pure DMs but still we had 3 defensive minded, uncreative midfielders.
 

The Curr

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Feb 3, 2007
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Well, this brings up an interesting point. If Sissoko isn't a DM, but rather a box to box midfielder, he is probably one of the worst I've seen in a Juve jersey then. He makes Manuele Blasi look like an artist with the ball.

This isn't hyperbole. Sissoko needs to improve his passing. He can be the best defensive player ever, but if he gives the ball away every time he gets it, our midfield play is suddenly ruined. It's not like he has a Pirlo to give the ball to like Gattuso.
That was the problem when he was at Liverpool.
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
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Maccabi haifa will be fancying their chances. we are clueless in the final 3rd. We need some width. we're playing like a open book. far too easy to read FFS.

.........aaahhh least my avatar makes me happy.
 

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