Christian Poulsen (21 Viewers)
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Sissoko came off injuries. Anyway a new season, a fresh start and I believe in Momo. Forza Sissoko. It wasnt long ago before we were raving about him. Yes his a poor passer but his a beast in the midfield and was off form, he can provide a lot to the midfield. Melo.. im not so sure, but having spent shit loads on him, it looks like nobody wants him, proberly right too. However this could be just the perfect turn around for him. Whatever the case I can only wish these two make the haters choke. Forza Sissoko and Melo 
His contribution last season was better than Sissoko's and Melo's.
Right, Juventus needs to sell. Ok, but why sell one of the few intelligent players you guys have left? You may not like him but he has more brains than Sissoko,Melo and Pepe combined.
Oh right, over here it does not matter if you're intelligent or not, it just matters if you score a goal, make great tackles (that the player was forced to do because he himself fucked up the play) or run all day long like headless chicken with little to no end product.
Great team you have there, mate
Right, Juventus needs to sell. Ok, but why sell one of the few intelligent players you guys have left? You may not like him but he has more brains than Sissoko,Melo and Pepe combined.
Oh right, over here it does not matter if you're intelligent or not, it just matters if you score a goal, make great tackles (that the player was forced to do because he himself fucked up the play) or run all day long like headless chicken with little to no end product.
Great team you have there, mate
This is Juventus, antiquated tactics and dumb midfielders have been the norm since Capello took over the team.
Folks are just conditioned to accept and enjoy it.
To protect the defense, the theory is that more defense is the answer, along with more defensively sound players. But in the past couple years we have used two DM's and chosen wingers who could defend over those who couldn't. Where did that get us? Nowhere. Yet the answer, supposedly, is to continue using the same methods and players.
This ideology is like Keynesian economics -- whatever the problem is, fight it with more of the same problem. And needless to say, it never works.
Folks are just conditioned to accept and enjoy it.
To protect the defense, the theory is that more defense is the answer, along with more defensively sound players. But in the past couple years we have used two DM's and chosen wingers who could defend over those who couldn't. Where did that get us? Nowhere. Yet the answer, supposedly, is to continue using the same methods and players.
This ideology is like Keynesian economics -- whatever the problem is, fight it with more of the same problem. And needless to say, it never works.
His contribution last season was better than Sissoko's and Melo's.
Right, Juventus needs to sell. Ok, but why sell one of the few intelligent players you guys have left? You may not like him but he has more brains than Sissoko,Melo and Pepe combined.
Oh right, over here it does not matter if you're intelligent or not, it just matters if you score a goal, make great tackles (that the player was forced to do because he himself fucked up the play) or run all day long like headless chicken with little to no end product.
Great team you have there, mate
Right, Juventus needs to sell. Ok, but why sell one of the few intelligent players you guys have left? You may not like him but he has more brains than Sissoko,Melo and Pepe combined.
Oh right, over here it does not matter if you're intelligent or not, it just matters if you score a goal, make great tackles (that the player was forced to do because he himself fucked up the play) or run all day long like headless chicken with little to no end product.
Great team you have there, mate
If you read all of my post you will understand.
An on form Melo and Sissoko are better players than Poulsen. His marginal affect on the team is much smaller than that of both of those players.
I am not even a huge fan of Sissoko but I can see that he has shown more in his time here than Poulsen.
I agree that he is more intelligent than both of those players but our starting midfielder will be Marchisio, to provide the intelligent play.
6 million for a backup, highly paid, sellable player 30 year old player, who has been decent for us is fine with me.
Rather that then spend on a backup player who is in his late twenties and on high wages, just for us to look to sell him within 2 seasons.
We can then focus on a great RW and LB, while getting a CB.
Regarding midfield, LW is the area where I could possibly see a few headaches. I'm really hoping Lanzafame can surprise a few people. The rest will look relatively fine, if there isn't any injuries. The brains will have to come from Diego and Marchisio and hopefully Krasic.
We can then focus on a great RW and LB, while getting a CB.
Regarding midfield, LW is the area where I could possibly see a few headaches. I'm really hoping Lanzafame can surprise a few people. The rest will look relatively fine, if there isn't any injuries. The brains will have to come from Diego and Marchisio and hopefully Krasic.
Thing is, Intelligence IS underrated over here, and probably inside Juventus too.
Tell which top teams DM/MC's are headless? Lassana Diarra? nope. Alonso? far from that. Busquets? as much as i hate him, nope. Essien? nope. Any of Manure midfielders? Nope. Cambiasso? nope. etc etc..
I don't see any of those teams having troubles in midfield. Yet you see Juventus stuck with headless players.
Tell which top teams DM/MC's are headless? Lassana Diarra? nope. Alonso? far from that. Busquets? as much as i hate him, nope. Essien? nope. Any of Manure midfielders? Nope. Cambiasso? nope. etc etc..
I don't see any of those teams having troubles in midfield. Yet you see Juventus stuck with headless players.
You misspoke. You meant to say that Sissoko is a better destroyer than Poulsen.
Saying he's a better footballer than Poulsen is nonsense. The guy can't pass, can't shoot, doesn't have any footballing intelligence whatsoever, but at least the Dane can complete passes and has far more positional sense.
As Sergio said, Sissoko is simply an athlete.
Saying he's a better footballer than Poulsen is nonsense. The guy can't pass, can't shoot, doesn't have any footballing intelligence whatsoever, but at least the Dane can complete passes and has far more positional sense.
As Sergio said, Sissoko is simply an athlete.
Like I said I am not a huge fan of Sissoko either, I agree Poulsen is a better passer and more intelligent. I certainly would not say that Poulsen has a better shot than Sissoko, both are equally poor. Sissoko has scored a couple of good goals for us. But lets not draw this into an argument of who is better at this/that.
IMO Sissoko when on form adds more to our team than Poulsen. I think back to the matches 2 seasons ago and he was often our best player. I try to think of games where Poulsen has been that effective much in a match and I struggle to think of any.
But it is clear that others see it differently, I for one am happy to be getting 6 million for him which we can use on Krasic and a LB.
Unfortunately we are not at the same level as those teams.
I am not dismissing intelligence on the football pitch.
I am simply explaining the reasons behing selling him: He is 30 years old, people want to buy him, we can get a decent amount of money, he has not been outstanding at any point since signing him, he is on a huge wage.
IMO Sissoko when on form adds more to our team than Poulsen. I think back to the matches 2 seasons ago and he was often our best player. I try to think of games where Poulsen has been that effective much in a match and I struggle to think of any.
But it is clear that others see it differently, I for one am happy to be getting 6 million for him which we can use on Krasic and a LB.
Unfortunately we are not at the same level as those teams.
I am not dismissing intelligence on the football pitch.
I am simply explaining the reasons behing selling him: He is 30 years old, people want to buy him, we can get a decent amount of money, he has not been outstanding at any point since signing him, he is on a huge wage.
Well, you should.
I agree however, that if Juve were to buy a proper INTELLIGENT DM/MC it wouldn't be a bad decision to sell him, somehow i'm afraid that's not the case.
A player like Gago for example at a reasonable price would be a perfect fit for you. Yet till now i've not seen any hint from the management that there's an interest to get a proper player.
Imagine this scenario for a minute. Diego,Del Piero, Krasic (if he comes) and Marchisio injured.
This is how Juventus would look:
That team is just
I agree however, that if Juve were to buy a proper INTELLIGENT DM/MC it wouldn't be a bad decision to sell him, somehow i'm afraid that's not the case.
A player like Gago for example at a reasonable price would be a perfect fit for you. Yet till now i've not seen any hint from the management that there's an interest to get a proper player.
Imagine this scenario for a minute. Diego,Del Piero, Krasic (if he comes) and Marchisio injured.
This is how Juventus would look:
Storari
Motta - Bonucci - Chiellini - LB/De Ceglie
(here comes the fun part, wait for it)
Pepe - Sissoko - Melo - Martinez/Lanzafame
Amauri - Iaquinta
Motta - Bonucci - Chiellini - LB/De Ceglie
(here comes the fun part, wait for it)
Pepe - Sissoko - Melo - Martinez/Lanzafame
Amauri - Iaquinta
That team is just
The problem is that there is no net gain from Sissoko's play. His solid tackling efforts are wiped out by his poor ability with the ball.
And in a system where the field is stretched and the CM's have to be multifaceted, the negatives quickly outweigh the positives of his play.
But we're selling or loaning central midfielders, those who can at least play the ball to an extent. If all these deals go through, we'll be left with two CM's and a DM... three players.
So unless we already have a successor lined up for cheap, one that is as good as or better than Poulsen, it isn't really good news.
And in a system where the field is stretched and the CM's have to be multifaceted, the negatives quickly outweigh the positives of his play.
But we're selling or loaning central midfielders, those who can at least play the ball to an extent. If all these deals go through, we'll be left with two CM's and a DM... three players.
So unless we already have a successor lined up for cheap, one that is as good as or better than Poulsen, it isn't really good news.
