lol I just answered and I told you I got it all wrong on this one! You can't arrest anyone for that comment, it's comedy! Did he make the explanation after getting arrested or before?
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he said it millions of times, quenelle is anti establishment, i know dieudo since he was with eli seymoun(a jew) hes one of the funniest stand up comics in france, he was torn to shreds by the establishment for making a skit about an israeli settler, so instead of apologizing and getting back to their graces he couldnt betray his principles of a comic who feels entitled to make fun of everyone and everything.
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i didnt see it, btw his facebook post said "tonight i feel like charlie coulibaly" to me his explanation makes sense, especially knowing him
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i didnt see it, btw his facebook post said "tonight i feel like charlie coulibaly" to me his explanation makes sense, especially knowing him
The arrest of Dieudonné isn't okay and you'll see plenty of Westerners defending his Artistical Right to express what he did.
France has its issues on these matters, no doubt. If I was the Editor of Charlie Hebdo I would make a cover questioning the ban of Holocaust-denial and the arrest of Dieudonné.
France has its issues on these matters, no doubt. If I was the Editor of Charlie Hebdo I would make a cover questioning the ban of Holocaust-denial and the arrest of Dieudonné.
yeah I didn't know him, and listened to the media version of the explanation, so I admit, I fell for it!
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I took all my words back about Dieudonné, I was ignorant about him I admit, but I stand of what I said in general, anyone who supports Koulibally's terror should be arrested..
That's another funny law by France too! If I am not mistaken, they have the same law for denying Armenian genocide! I am Armenian myself, but I find it ridiculous arresting someone for denying the genocide (In France) or admitting it (In Turkey)..
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I took all my words back about Dieudonné, I was ignorant about him I admit, but I stand of what I said in general, anyone who supports Koulibally's terror should be arrested..
That's another funny law by France too! If I am not mistaken, they have the same law for denying Armenian genocide! I am Armenian myself, but I find it ridiculous arresting someone for denying the genocide (In France) or admitting it (In Turkey)..
more hypocrisy from the frogs, Phillipe tesson calls for dieudo to be executed, and says he is an animal that need to be put down. He also continues with a "muslims are responsible for all the shit in france"
http://www.liberation.fr/politiques...ulmans-qui-amenent-la-merde-en-france_1181208
http://www.liberation.fr/politiques...ulmans-qui-amenent-la-merde-en-france_1181208
Well of course nothing will happen, when you have a legal political party and a pig leader like Marine Le Pen with millions of supporters..
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It is, and probably more than 90% of my people sadly support it, but are against the same law that is not allowed to admit the genocide in Turkey, hypocrites..
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It is, and probably more than 90% of my people sadly support it, but are against the same law that is not allowed to admit the genocide in Turkey, hypocrites..
That's just pathetic. Now it's time for the Liberals of France to step up and fight for their believes even if it'll cost them some votes.
Just saw this stat over Charlie Hebdo Cover's in 2014. g.
Charlie Hebdo covers in 2014, according to Canal+
French politics: 35
Front National: 10
Catholicism: 2
Israel: 1
Mohammed: 1
Just saw this stat over Charlie Hebdo Cover's in 2014. g.
Charlie Hebdo covers in 2014, according to Canal+
French politics: 35
Front National: 10
Catholicism: 2
Israel: 1
Mohammed: 1
another one calling for dieudo to be killed, not charged
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation....eurtre-de-Dieudonne-et-Alain-Soral-30292.html
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation....eurtre-de-Dieudonne-et-Alain-Soral-30292.html
That's just hate speech.
But I wouldn't necessarily connect it with the Dieudonne case, as there it is the state itself dealing in hypocrisy. Tesson is just a whack individual, the sort of people you find in every country (in what quantity and with how large an audience strongly varies however).
Regarding the issue of free speech, I think there are two definite limits to it:
1.) Calls for violence.
2.) Deliberate propagation of factually wrong information with the intent of causing harm to someone.
Other than that, everything should be allowed legally. This does of coure not mean, that criticism or outrage in response to statements of others is not acceptable. How appropriate this might be depends on the specific case, but for example I do not, in principle, see a problem with let's say a journalist losing his job due to an extremely anti-muslim, antisemitic or anti-christian article or commentary of his. However, unless he violates the two boundaries stated above, he should not be apprehended legally in every way.
But I wouldn't necessarily connect it with the Dieudonne case, as there it is the state itself dealing in hypocrisy. Tesson is just a whack individual, the sort of people you find in every country (in what quantity and with how large an audience strongly varies however).
Regarding the issue of free speech, I think there are two definite limits to it:
1.) Calls for violence.
2.) Deliberate propagation of factually wrong information with the intent of causing harm to someone.
Other than that, everything should be allowed legally. This does of coure not mean, that criticism or outrage in response to statements of others is not acceptable. How appropriate this might be depends on the specific case, but for example I do not, in principle, see a problem with let's say a journalist losing his job due to an extremely anti-muslim, antisemitic or anti-christian article or commentary of his. However, unless he violates the two boundaries stated above, he should not be apprehended legally in every way.
The 'freedom' applies both ways. You are free to publish what you want, but you are also free to not publish it.
If people disagree with an editorial line they are more than welcome to look elsewhere for information. Of course that's an ideal, but in a pluralistic society it's possible.
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I share your gripe which is why I've continuously in this thread have argued why a ban against an ideology is the wrong way to go.
If people disagree with an editorial line they are more than welcome to look elsewhere for information. Of course that's an ideal, but in a pluralistic society it's possible.
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I share your gripe which is why I've continuously in this thread have argued why a ban against an ideology is the wrong way to go.