Champions League Final - Who do the Juve faithful support?? (2 Viewers)

Who will you shout for in the final?

  • Maldini's grandad select

  • Liverpool tinkers

  • Fuck both


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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,112
As for me, I respect both Liverpool and Milan but still wish there some way for them to both lose. One of my best friends is a Pool supporter so perhaps he'll try to make me a little partial.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Some people got manipulated by the "fact" that if Milan win champions league it will do wonders for Italian rating and Italians will keep 4 CL spots.

Let me explain it for the last time :
Italy is now 3rd place in UEFA ratings with 65.802 points. France is at 4 place with 53.656 points. Italians are leading by 12.146 points.

If Milan lose the final the difference between Italy and France will stay the same because there arent any french teams left in champions league or uefa cup.

If Milan win the final, the win will bring 0.429 more points to Italy and the difference between Italy and France won't be 12.146 points but it will be 12.575 points.
Do you think this will change something ? And if Milan wins on penalties then that win won't bring 0.429 more points but only 0.286 more points.

You have to understand the system of getting points. I think its not a fair system but thats what we have for now. If Milan beat Liverpool on penalties then Milan will bring exactly the same number of points ( +0.286) as Palermo brought to Italy earlier this season when they've beaten some team in uefa cup.
Thank you my friend :pint:

Not Just that, are we the one to worry for these ratings? or clubs like Palermo, Roma, Lazio, Fiorentina etc.. should worry about it? Being scared that Juve might not make the CL spot (Next year's case is exception) is pathetic.. These fools should realize that Juve Plays to win the Scudetto, and not to secure the forth place (again, Next year is an exception)..


This was a helluva argument, but its too late to use it now. People should have been aware of this when Milan played Celtic,Bayern and Manchester United.
If Bayern eliminated Milan this would have been Ancelottis greatest failure. Lost all chances in serie a, lost the cup, eliminated early in cl. He would have been fired for sure. And Carlo Ancelotti is the creator of this Milan we know today. He brought the winning mentality back afyer 8 years, he brought Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Oddo, Jankulovski, Gilardino, Ronaldo. Like its always happening, many of them would have followed the coach and some of them would have left Milan because the new coach would have brought new players or because these champs don't like losing on every front for 3 straight years.
Milan would have been in the same or even worse position than us. Its always hard to do something when changing many players.

Now its probably too late but there are still chances for changes to happen in Milan if they lose the final. After all , it will still be 3 years without winning shit and Berlusconi isnt the man who wants to lose 3 years in a row. He may easily say goodbye to Ancelotti and some star players. Maybe he'll get Ronaldinho, but without the current champs they have and without Ancelotti, Ronaldinho cant do shit in Milan.
And if Milan wins the final not only Milan will keep the stars and the coach but they can easily add Zambrotta to replace Jankulovski, Buffon to replace Dida and Ronaldinho to replace Gilardino.

Whats best for Juve, what do u think ? ;)
I agree with you, these are my concerns as well, and I am afraid Ancelotti is staying, which is good for Milan, since he took the team to the Final.. If he stays, Milan is stronger next years, stronger than us at least..

Do you say this because of the money they would receive from a victory? You may or may not remember, that although we lost the final in 2003 to Milan, we in fact earned more money.

I don't see there being any difference in their ability to sign/attract players should Milan win or lose.
Yeah, I never wanted Milan to reach the Final for this reason, Because the Finalist takes Huge money also..

and for the second part, Not winning anything for a third year in a row, will make them crazy, and If Ancelotti leaves, many players might leave, it will hit the club like an earthquake, and some Players might think twice of joining them.


So I suppose with this information we can label you a gloryhunter who only cares about winning trophies?

Perfect.
so If a fan wishes his beloved club to win trophies that is a gloryhunting? then what the "real" fan should wish for his club? :faq1:
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Dominic are we discussing about who we like more Liverpool or Milan? or we are discussing the outcomes of this final to Juve? you say we shouldn't care about these things it's just a football? Why are we in this forum then, watching Juve news, transfers news, Calciopoli scandal (remember we were following minute by a minute), Juve's financial news etc..

Ofcourse it's not only a 90 minute football, we concern about our club, and there is nothing wrong in that.
 

Gill_juve

Senior Member
May 29, 2006
5,494
Dominic are we discussing about who we like more Liverpool or Milan? or we are discussing the outcomes of this final to Juve? you say we shouldn't care about these things it's just a football? Why are we in this forum then, watching Juve news, transfers news, Calciopoli scandal (remember we were following minute by a minute), Juve's financial news etc..

Ofcourse it's not only a 90 minute football, we concern about our club, and there is nothing wrong in that.
i think he meant that people should stop saying that we should not support milan etc.
 

Vidocq

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2006
1,332
were not rooting milan only because theyre italians, remember the amount of spots you have in the CL depends upon the performances. i want milan to win so italy can retain 4 spots thus its easier for juve to qualify for CL. We are supporting them because when they win the whole league wins

That means if Messina and Ascoli fans support Milan in CL final, their clubs won't be relegated.. Fair enough..
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
I can't fucking stand them or the bigoted tossers that support them and I couldn't stand listening to the gloating if they won and that overrides improving Scotlands image. I danced around my living room when Porto scored the winner against Celtic in the UEFA Cup Final and I hate Rangers more than Celtic.



Aberdeen are my first team and I have supported them all my live, I went to my first game when I was 4 and it can ruin my whole week if they lose. Aberdeen have a massive game on Sunday and I will hardly sleep the night before it.

Juve are a clear second to Aberdeen. I started supporting them when they kept losing CL finals and because I enjoyed watching them. Juve losing annoys me but I get over quite quickly
a lot of members will hate you now :D
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
"Stop acting bright cos we all know u not sharpest tool in the shed, u not even making sense do everyone a favour and support milan cos that would make your life easier. no team needs fans like you."

ok I don't know which smart wrote this when repping me, are you hiding under your bed now? let's see first if your comment make any sense first huh?
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
"Stop acting bright cos we all know u not sharpest tool in the shed, u not even making sense do everyone a favour and support milan cos that would make your life easier. no team needs fans like you."

ok I don't know which smart wrote this when repping me, are you hiding under your bed now? let's see first if your comment make any sense first huh?
can you shutup :p
 

Vidocq

Senior Member
Sep 9, 2006
1,332
"Jeez u are one stupid mother fucker, shut up b4 u embaress yourself i feel sorry for your parents, from ur gurdian angel"


Hopefully this idiot will be banned, just like me when I 'insult' someone..
 

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