Champions League Final - Who do the Juve faithful support?? (3 Viewers)
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It will be more like this:1) A win for Milan will be good for Milan, not Italian football. And what is good for Milan is not good for Juventus. Milan will get shit loads of money and strengthen their squad and beat the shit out of Juventus next season.
2) I agree. I didn´t want to see all English final also.
3) Milan is not on Juventus side and Milan are not innocent victims. Milan is corrupted as much as Inter.
4) I don´t care about Berlusconi´s trophy. Milan are discusting cunts and I have no respect for them. Only thing I have with Milan is hate and envy because of their European success.
5) Juventus and Liverpool don´t have any bad blood. That is only imagination of a few idiots that think Liverpool as a club is responsible for death of Juventus fans.
Del Piero´s goal ruled out?
How about Juventus-Milan final in 2003 when Dida saved 3 penalties and standing out of his line. How many times Juventus was burned by Milan because of bad referee decisions?? Billion of times.Final conclusion is: FORZA LIVERPOOL and FUCK YOU MILAN FOREVER!!
they have the :money: right now, because of they reach the finals (no matters they win or not), and the fuckers will bring big players(my opinion)
Today, the Calcio studio of Al Jazeera Sports Channel was hosting Alessandro Altobelli and Cesare Maldini.
Altobelli: Yes, Inter have been far the best team in Italy this season, and even better than Milan. Moreover, they owned Milan in their direct clashes.
Maldini: Actually, Milan reached the final of the Champions League this season, but Inter have dominated the Serie A.
Altobelli: Still Inter need some reinforcements for the next season, there are some points of weakness.
Maldini: Also, Milan should strengthen the squad for the possible competition they'll face of inter.
Altobelli: But, Inter in the next season will concentrate more on Europe.
Maldini: The competition in the next season's Serie A between us would be tough, nevertheless.
And I say that Altobelli is an ignorant prick and Maldini is an arrogant asshole.
Yes, I can't deny that I cheered for Milan - God forbid - in their both matches against Manure. And I kept on saying that I support the Italian football not Milan. But, still I can't digest it. And I've just remembered something; when Shevchenko missed the last penalty against Liverpool two years ago, he reminded me that he was the one who scored the last penalty against us in Old Trafford, despite preferring Milan to Liverpool in that match. I'm not vindictive or anything, but I'm describing what happened to me precisely.
And after 10 days from now, we (Juventini) would face the same situation, Liverpool vs Milan in the final of the Champions League. Therefore, I have to go with a choice here. Eventually, I prefer the last one; Fuck Both.
Altobelli: Yes, Inter have been far the best team in Italy this season, and even better than Milan. Moreover, they owned Milan in their direct clashes.
Maldini: Actually, Milan reached the final of the Champions League this season, but Inter have dominated the Serie A.
Altobelli: Still Inter need some reinforcements for the next season, there are some points of weakness.
Maldini: Also, Milan should strengthen the squad for the possible competition they'll face of inter.
Altobelli: But, Inter in the next season will concentrate more on Europe.
Maldini: The competition in the next season's Serie A between us would be tough, nevertheless.
And I say that Altobelli is an ignorant prick and Maldini is an arrogant asshole.
Yes, I can't deny that I cheered for Milan - God forbid - in their both matches against Manure. And I kept on saying that I support the Italian football not Milan. But, still I can't digest it. And I've just remembered something; when Shevchenko missed the last penalty against Liverpool two years ago, he reminded me that he was the one who scored the last penalty against us in Old Trafford, despite preferring Milan to Liverpool in that match. I'm not vindictive or anything, but I'm describing what happened to me precisely.
And after 10 days from now, we (Juventini) would face the same situation, Liverpool vs Milan in the final of the Champions League. Therefore, I have to go with a choice here. Eventually, I prefer the last one; Fuck Both.
I have no problem with the current liverpool side ... Every game at anfield road shows that even the current liverpool supporters are in big sadness and shame for what their predecessors did in 1986. Obviously these things can't be forgotten, but showing regrets for smg you have nothing to do with makes me forgive the current liverpool generation.
I'm going for Liverpool.
I'm going for Liverpool.
you two are thinking with your feelings or emotions.. you should think professionally, Milan winning the title is never good for Juve. I don't want Milan get stronger and stronger, I don't want to be the shadow of them in Europe, not just that, I don't want them to get stronger financially by winning the title, I don't want them to attract the best players in the game (after winning the CL title), including our own players.. If you (whoever is supporting Milan) still want Milan winning it, then you are nothing but a blind.. Liverpool is not our closest Rival, winning them the title won't harm us in any way, someone will win it anyway, but I don't want My biggest rival to win it..
And please don't come to me with "it is the best for serie A if an Italian club wins it" bullshit.. what will change If Milan wins?? Do you mean that the number of CL spots will stay 4 or get more, is it the reason? Do Juventus need that? are we a club that can hardly make the CL spot? No we are not, we are not a lazio or a Roma or a Palermo, we compete to win titles, to become bigger, and not for CL spots or anyone's sympathy..
And please don't come to me with "it is the best for serie A if an Italian club wins it" bullshit.. what will change If Milan wins?? Do you mean that the number of CL spots will stay 4 or get more, is it the reason? Do Juventus need that? are we a club that can hardly make the CL spot? No we are not, we are not a lazio or a Roma or a Palermo, we compete to win titles, to become bigger, and not for CL spots or anyone's sympathy..
Snoop, I agree with what you said. But there is another point here. When Milan were playing against Manure, I had to evaluate the whole issue. I hate Manure and their arrogant players plus I like the Italian football. And don't ignore the fact that all the English football fans would be more crazy if the final of Europe would have been pure English. But, when it comes to the final and the titles, Milan...No.
that's personal, I understand that, thou i have nothing against man utd (it is still arguable thou).. I also don't mind if Italian clubs qualify to Semi Final too, but ofcourse If Juve is doing the same or better. yeah I wouldn't desire all the Italian clubs to get eliminated from the first stage, But I don't want them also to go further than us, or If we are not there..
I felt it disgusting when people were cheering Milan to reach the Final (because lots of cash is being paid to the finalist also), even thou I can understand If you hate man utd, but those 32 votes, who want Milan to win the Title is the most disgusting and the dumbest thing to wish..
BTW, this is nothing to do with hate here, i don't hate Milan or Inter like the most of the members do here, I am concerned for only Juventus here..
I felt it disgusting when people were cheering Milan to reach the Final (because lots of cash is being paid to the finalist also), even thou I can understand If you hate man utd, but those 32 votes, who want Milan to win the Title is the most disgusting and the dumbest thing to wish..
BTW, this is nothing to do with hate here, i don't hate Milan or Inter like the most of the members do here, I am concerned for only Juventus here..
Example on my part i was watching the super 14 semifinals yesterday tournament between south african, new zealand and australian teams and the 1st team that qualified for the final was a south african team and the captain of that team said he will be cheering for the other south african team to join them in the final because that would be great for south african rugby. Italian football is always getting bashed for one reason or the other so milan winning the CL might shut those critics up.
Yes, I want the best for Juve and nothing but Juve. But, I still want Inter to choke and Milan not to go one step further than their current position. They reached the final of the Champions League after a whole modest season and thanks to the Italian tactic that helped them in Europe.
As for the Juventini who cheer for Milan, I comprehend that still Milan aren't like Inter. For example, if you check the forums of both Milan and Inter, you'll certainly figure out that Inter's fans are more disgusting and very low class compared to Milan fans. I don't blame them though. Fans who never dreamt of the Scudetto, are now champions, ironically. Still, this can't negate your theory about us cheering for Milan in the final.
Jack said in the Champions League thread that if he had to cheer for a specific team in Europe, it could have been Chelsea, and I know the reason and I've agreed. Myself was supporting Valencia since the beginning of this term's CL as well, and when they're eliminated, I wanted Chelsea to win it. But Chelsea are out now. And we've to digest. Who is the least harmful to us? It is Liverpool. So, Liverpool or Screw both.
As for the Juventini who cheer for Milan, I comprehend that still Milan aren't like Inter. For example, if you check the forums of both Milan and Inter, you'll certainly figure out that Inter's fans are more disgusting and very low class compared to Milan fans. I don't blame them though. Fans who never dreamt of the Scudetto, are now champions, ironically. Still, this can't negate your theory about us cheering for Milan in the final.
Jack said in the Champions League thread that if he had to cheer for a specific team in Europe, it could have been Chelsea, and I know the reason and I've agreed. Myself was supporting Valencia since the beginning of this term's CL as well, and when they're eliminated, I wanted Chelsea to win it. But Chelsea are out now. And we've to digest. Who is the least harmful to us? It is Liverpool. So, Liverpool or Screw both.
I am not Italian, and It is not my concern If the Italians succeed, you are talking about nationalism, you can't mix that feeling when it comes to football clubs.
and the bashing thing is meaningless, it is media, they have to write something to sell their papers, and even If the Italians win, will they stop? I don't think so. They are not bashing Italians because they are not winning, it is because of the way some of the clubs play (defensive?), fans' troubles (Roma, Inter, Palermo's incident etc..), and the corruption and the refree scandals. It's not that they are bashing for nothing anyway.. this is a different subject anyway..
yes this doesn't make any change to what I have said.. and what fans think is my last concern, If we will think that way, then you guys should hate Roma more than Inter, and celebrate Roma's failure to win the scudetto? this generalizing anyway, not every inter fan are alike..
this is also another subject, cheering for Valencia, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barcelona is another subject, what we are talking about is something different here, cheering for a club that you will compete domestically and in europe, the club that you will have to share the prize (Tv deal ) depending on the success of both. btw I don't know how (in what way) you guys support those clubs you mentioned, but I won't shout out "yeaaaaah Liverpool won, we are the champions", I will only have the pleasure to see the failure of the Milan in the final, that's it!
and the bashing thing is meaningless, it is media, they have to write something to sell their papers, and even If the Italians win, will they stop? I don't think so. They are not bashing Italians because they are not winning, it is because of the way some of the clubs play (defensive?), fans' troubles (Roma, Inter, Palermo's incident etc..), and the corruption and the refree scandals. It's not that they are bashing for nothing anyway.. this is a different subject anyway..
yes this doesn't make any change to what I have said.. and what fans think is my last concern, If we will think that way, then you guys should hate Roma more than Inter, and celebrate Roma's failure to win the scudetto? this generalizing anyway, not every inter fan are alike..
this is also another subject, cheering for Valencia, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barcelona is another subject, what we are talking about is something different here, cheering for a club that you will compete domestically and in europe, the club that you will have to share the prize (Tv deal ) depending on the success of both. btw I don't know how (in what way) you guys support those clubs you mentioned, but I won't shout out "yeaaaaah Liverpool won, we are the champions", I will only have the pleasure to see the failure of the Milan in the final, that's it!
This isn't cheering by the exact meaning of the word, Snoop. It is like preferring a team to another team or, as I said earlier, the team who is the least harmful to your team. That's why, I preferred Chelsea and Valencia in the Champions League. Even though, if any of them would win the CL, I wouldn't have been happy as you said. But, at least, this isn't that harmful to Juventus.
Regarding the TV deals, I don't know much about these things but I hope everything will be fixed within a couple of years. We're capable of doing it, I believe.
I doubt that.
Regarding the TV deals, I don't know much about these things but I hope everything will be fixed within a couple of years. We're capable of doing it, I believe.
I doubt that.
Spot on everything you said Snoop. 
It's interesting how we who want Milan to lose want it because we think that is the best for Juve and members who want Milan to win also think it will be the best for Juve. It is not like we want Milan to choke because we hate Milan more than we love Juve and it's not like the others who want Milan to win are doing it because they love Milan more than they love Juve.
Some of us are right and the others are wrong ( Compliments to FUCK THEM BOTH voters. They are right in any case). Only the future will tell who were the ones who made the right choice.
Forza Juve whoever wins.
I know it looks bad but i looked into these 32 votes and i think it gives a wrong picture.
26 people voted for Milan to win, not 32. Member Max somehow gave 7 votes
Some of the voters are Milan fans, like Kaka1899 and the member with many Z's ( zzzzz ). Many of them are British and unlike our Italians who wish good to italian teams, our members from Britain seem to want Liverpool to choke.
Some are Italians and want Italian team to win, and one vote came from Burke so we can't take it seriously.
It's interesting how we who want Milan to lose want it because we think that is the best for Juve and members who want Milan to win also think it will be the best for Juve. It is not like we want Milan to choke because we hate Milan more than we love Juve and it's not like the others who want Milan to win are doing it because they love Milan more than they love Juve.
Some of us are right and the others are wrong ( Compliments to FUCK THEM BOTH voters. They are right in any case). Only the future will tell who were the ones who made the right choice.
Forza Juve whoever wins.
I know it looks bad but i looked into these 32 votes and i think it gives a wrong picture.
26 people voted for Milan to win, not 32. Member Max somehow gave 7 votes
Some of the voters are Milan fans, like Kaka1899 and the member with many Z's ( zzzzz ). Many of them are British and unlike our Italians who wish good to italian teams, our members from Britain seem to want Liverpool to choke.
Some are Italians and want Italian team to win, and one vote came from Burke so we can't take it seriously.