[Champions League] Bayern München vs JUVENTUS (April 2, 2013) (144 Viewers)

acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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Mandzukic's head was in front of our defender. Every part of the body with which you can score counts.
yeah, but that's not all there is to the rule, iirc - regarding the defender, any part of his body counts with which he can defend/prevent a goal, which his feet obviously are and it's his trailing foot that seems very much in line with Mandzukic' head/body.
 

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Juventino[RUS];4115147 said:
You can sergoi all you want, Robben should've buried the two 100% he had and they could easily have scored more goals if we weren't a bit lucky with the deflections.

Aerial succes is 67% in Bayern's favour, 67%. It's amazing that we didn't get punished harder on those corners.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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yeah, but that's not all there is to the rule, iirc - regarding the defender, any part of his body counts with which he can defend/prevent a goal, which his feet obviously are and it's his trailing foot that seems very much in line with Mandzukic' head/body.
Not that it decided anything but Mandzukic' head wasn't in line. I watched it on TV, commentator said it, ex ref said it later, every newspapers also.
 

Juventino[RUS]

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Mar 9, 2006
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yeah, but that's not all there is to the rule, iirc - regarding the defender, any part of his body counts with which he can defend/prevent a goal, which his feet obviously are and it's his trailing foot that seems very much in line with Mandzukic' head/body.
A player is in an offside position if:
He is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the
ball and the second last opponent.

IFAB Decision 1:
 Consideration should be given to any part of the head,
body or feet of the attacker in relation to the second
last defender,the ball or the halfway line .
 For the purposes of this decision, the arms are not
considered to be part of the body

Active Play
“Gaining an advantage by being in that position”
means:
 Playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or
crossbar, having previously been in an offside position.
 Playing a ball, that rebounds to him off an opponent,
having previously been in an offside position.

This happened, clear offside
 

Juventino[RUS]

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Mar 9, 2006
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You can sergoi all you want, Robben should've buried the two 100% he had and they could easily have scored more goals if we weren't a bit lucky with the deflections.

Aerial succes is 67% in Bayern's favour, 67%. It's amazing that we didn't get punished harder on those corners.
two 100%? :lol: :lol: :lol: ye he had 1on1 meeting with gk there :lol: :lol:
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,165
Juventino[RUS];4115157 said:
A player is in an offside position if:
He is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the
ball and the second last opponent.

IFAB Decision 1:
Consideration should be given to any part of the head,
body or feet of the attacker in relation to the second
last defender,the ball or the halfway line .
For the purposes of this decision, the arms are not
considered to be part of the body

Active Play
“Gaining an advantage by being in that position”
means:
Playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or
crossbar, having previously been in an offside position.
Playing a ball, that rebounds to him off an opponent,
having previously been in an offside position.

This happened, clear offside
It was clear offside but as I said it wasn't decisive. They outplayed us.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Juventino[RUS];4115161 said:
two 100%? :lol: :lol: :lol: ye he had 1on1 meeting with gk there :lol: :lol:
He completely missed the goal from 5m where buffon had already jumped to the wrong side. You're being delusional if you think 2-0 was in any way a fair result tonight. We were lucky as fuck.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
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Not that it decided anything but Mandzukic' head wasn't in line. I watched it on TV, commentator said it, ex ref said it later, every newspapers also.
you don't need someone else to say it - can see it for yourself in that pic Alex 444 posted above. Quite frankly I dn't see how anyone can say with certainty that the trailing foot wasn't in line with the forward's head ... we are talking +/- couple of centimeters here.

again, the important part to point out is that trailing foot for the Juve defender, don't just look at the bodies/torsos of the players.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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The amount of ":lol:" smileys in your post is usually a pretty good measurement of how stupid they are. ^ is 2 on a stupid scale, the one before that was 5.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
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you don't need someone else to say it - can see it for yourself in that pic Alex 444 posted above. Quite frankly I dn't see how anyone can say with certainty that the trailing foot wasn't in line with the forward's head ... we are talking +/- couple of centimeters here.

again, the important part to point out is that trailing foot for the Juve defender, don't just look at the bodies/torsos of the players.
check the rules, fool
 

frick

Senior Member
Apr 4, 2010
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To be fair, the players were clearly shaken off after that quick first goal.
Even Pirlo's long passes were poop.
I can imagine the game would be different had we not conceding early.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,719
Juventino[RUS];4115157 said:
A player is in an offside position if:
He is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the
ball and the second last opponent.

IFAB Decision 1:
Consideration should be given to any part of the head,
body or feet of the attacker in relation to the second
last defender,the ball or the halfway line .
For the purposes of this decision, the arms are not
considered to be part of the body

Active Play
“Gaining an advantage by being in that position”
means:
Playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or
crossbar, having previously been in an offside position.
Playing a ball, that rebounds to him off an opponent,
having previously been in an offside position.

This happened, clear offside
nothing in the above text makes this offside - again, those feet for the defender are part of his body.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,165
you don't need someone else to say it - can see it for yourself in that pic Alex 444 posted above. Quite frankly I dn't see how anyone can say with certainty that the trailing foot wasn't in line with the forward's head ... we are talking +/- couple of centimeters here.

again, the important part to point out is that trailing foot for the Juve defender, don't just look at the bodies/torsos of the players.
Off course I don't. I saw an offside position. His head and body were in front of the defender. The fact that others confirmed it just benefits my cause.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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And I'm still proud of that picture. It was a fun day and I got to show some skin :tup:

Beats the hell out of flipping off your own mirror image in some industrial elevator in Sochi.
 

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