[Champions League] Bayern München vs JUVENTUS (April 2, 2013) (130 Viewers)
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Conte needs to realize that our 2 strikers way up front does not work against athletic teams. We suffer the same problem over and over. The strikers are too isolated and when they come back to the ball, they have a defender all the way on their back. Only option is to one touch somewhere which none have the talent to pull off consistently.
Also our wide players have nowhere to go with the ball except up the line or back to a CB. We have become an extremely predictable team and Bayern had us sorted in the 1st minute.
We need someone to drop off and make the top part of a triangle with Marchisio and Vidal.
I'm really shocked Conte did not switch to something like a 4-3-3 when it was clear that nothing was going to change. Utterly and completely sorted out by Heynckes. Not even an attempt to adapt our tactic to search for a crucial away goal. FFS, a 3-1 loss is better than 2-0.
Once Muller came into the middle of the pitch instead of Kroos, I knew we were fucked. Pirlo had a chance to handle Kroos. No chance against that working maniac Muller, and on top of it Mandzukic dropping back. What a disaster. We should have instantly removed Pirlo and made the point of reference behind our strikers instead of on top of our defense.
Also our wide players have nowhere to go with the ball except up the line or back to a CB. We have become an extremely predictable team and Bayern had us sorted in the 1st minute.
We need someone to drop off and make the top part of a triangle with Marchisio and Vidal.
I'm really shocked Conte did not switch to something like a 4-3-3 when it was clear that nothing was going to change. Utterly and completely sorted out by Heynckes. Not even an attempt to adapt our tactic to search for a crucial away goal. FFS, a 3-1 loss is better than 2-0.
Once Muller came into the middle of the pitch instead of Kroos, I knew we were fucked. Pirlo had a chance to handle Kroos. No chance against that working maniac Muller, and on top of it Mandzukic dropping back. What a disaster. We should have instantly removed Pirlo and made the point of reference behind our strikers instead of on top of our defense.
You could've had Messi and Ronaldo playing upfront for you tonight and they wouldn't score. Did you not see the game? You're not going to score if you don't take a shot on goal. You're not going to get a shot in goal if the best player on your team is being replaced by one of the more mindless defenders putting long balls forward, aiming for the linesmen. Conte got his subs wrong. Vucinic should've come on for Matri. Asamoah for Peluso. And Pogba for Marchisio. It was his lack of actually having a legit plan b that he subbed the two forwards together assuming they were the problem in this match. Bayern's entire play starts and builds from the flanks. Peluso got murdered there, and you seriously cannot expect to get the semis of the Qatari league if you've got battles like Padoin vs Ribery and Peluso vs Robben.
My personal analysis of this game was that we gave Bayern way too much respect. Even after the first goal, we showed some movement and structure in our play, and they seemed vulnerable when that was happening. Post that, we just collapsed. I'm not so sure the 352 is the formation we should be looking at when you're up against a team with such dynamic lateral movement. I have absolutely no complaints against what happened there tonight. It wasn't on a knife edge. The better team won. You know what they say though, 2-0 is the worst lead in football. And quite frankly, could've been a lot worse for us tonight.
Pogba automatically starts the next game, and I'd rather we go with Caceres or Isla than Padoin, but lets see if Conte thinks up something. I'd still go with Vucinic-Quag in this game because Gio's going to have no chance in such a physical set up. I hope we can treat the tie as a one off. The only positive upside I can think off is, that we are going to be at home with nothing to lose. Juve are pretty good on nights like those.
Though my prediction would be a 2-1 or 2-2 draw.
My personal analysis of this game was that we gave Bayern way too much respect. Even after the first goal, we showed some movement and structure in our play, and they seemed vulnerable when that was happening. Post that, we just collapsed. I'm not so sure the 352 is the formation we should be looking at when you're up against a team with such dynamic lateral movement. I have absolutely no complaints against what happened there tonight. It wasn't on a knife edge. The better team won. You know what they say though, 2-0 is the worst lead in football. And quite frankly, could've been a lot worse for us tonight.
Pogba automatically starts the next game, and I'd rather we go with Caceres or Isla than Padoin, but lets see if Conte thinks up something. I'd still go with Vucinic-Quag in this game because Gio's going to have no chance in such a physical set up. I hope we can treat the tie as a one off. The only positive upside I can think off is, that we are going to be at home with nothing to lose. Juve are pretty good on nights like those.
Though my prediction would be a 2-1 or 2-2 draw.
They are actually quite pleasant. Unless there are some crazies I haven't seen yet they are actually nice...acmilan style nice. 
however, I will wear our shirt with proud 
I'd say it was more on par Then unfortunately Kroos got injured and Robben came on, that was a big point in the game.
Then unfortunately Kroos got injured and Robben came on, that was a big point in the game.
Hard to say how much Robben's introduction played, he's such a ball hogger, must be so frustrating to play with.
It's really strange. He even said it in the prematch. Something to the extent of, we'll know just how far behind we are of these guys. Dunno how that's going to motivate your team when you talk like that. Also, Ive got to say, he himself must be going through the motions coz it was arguably his biggest match in two years. And his entire coaching career. Wht doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger I guess. I just hope this doesn't drive him to accept a move abroad, seeing the level of players he was up against tonight and Juve's lack of funds to get there.