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Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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compared to the format of the uefa conference league this is as simple as it gets. given it's probably the same guys that worked on both I'm pleasantly surprised, it could've been worse. but generally this is moving in the direction of the nba, they too have 1230 games in regular season which mean fuck-all.

for people not familiar with the Conference League, I looked it up when we qualified, it's a nightmare, you'll never explain it to a 9yo football fan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League
How do they determine your 10 matches in the league table? Random draw?

Seems open for rife corruption. We already get absolute MINNOWS into the group stage, now add FOUR MORE teams who probably are going to get steamrolled and the question is who gets to play mostly bad teams?

Just more ways for Man City, Barca, PSG to get cakewalks, avoid the two extra match playoffs and gather more
CL trophies.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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How do they determine your 10 matches in the league table? Random draw?

Seems open for rife corruption. We already get absolute MINNOWS into the group stage, now add FOUR MORE teams who probably are going to get steamrolled and the question is who gets to play mostly bad teams?

Just more ways for Man City, Barca, PSG to get cakewalks, avoid the two extra match playoffs and gather more
CL trophies.

The idea behind this is simple:

- More games = more revenue.
- More games = less chance for big teams to get knocked out early.

Small teams can win against big teams on a given day. But if a big team plays 7 or 8 small teams, it is always going to win 5 or 6 games. The end result will be that the bigger teams have better odds of reaching the final 16 than they do now.
 

Knowah

Pool's Closed Due to Aids
Jan 28, 2013
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The idea behind this is simple:

- More games = more revenue.
- More games = less chance for big teams to get knocked out early.

Small teams can win against big teams on a given day. But if a big team plays 7 or 8 small teams, it is always going to win 5 or 6 games. The end result will be that the bigger teams have better odds of reaching the final 16 than they do now.
I get the thought process behind why they're expanding. I'm saying if you go to one table like a league, clubs aren't playing EVERYBODY in the league twice like a league. They're only going to play a small section of the total table. Who determines that?

Is it a random draw once again, just longer as they draw out EVERY team's schedule? Or will they just release a schedule and tell you "trust me bro we were honest."

Again, seems ripe for corruption.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I get the thought process behind why they're expanding. I'm saying if you go to one table like a league, clubs aren't playing EVERYBODY in the league twice like a league. They're only going to play a small section of the total table. Who determines that?

Is it a random draw once again, just longer as they draw out EVERY team's schedule? Or will they just release a schedule and tell you "trust me bro we were honest."

Again, seems ripe for corruption.
I imagine the clubs will be seeded according to historic performance.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Wiki has a lot of details, seeding will be based on coefficient

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It seems convoluted as fuck, I can see it taking away from the CL “magic” so to speak.

got a feeling this will only make EPL strengthen its grip on the sport
 

Knowah

Pool's Closed Due to Aids
Jan 28, 2013
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Wiki has a lot of details, seeding will be based on coefficient

- - - Updated - - -

It seems convoluted as fuck, I can see it taking away from the CL “magic” so to speak.

got a feeling this will only make EPL strengthen its grip on the sport
Yeah, I went to the wiki for answers and the whole process seems convoluted and burdensome. Seems like it's co-efficient based with there will be some "random draw" to it.

Time will tell, I guess.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Yeah, I went to the wiki for answers and the whole process seems convoluted and burdensome. Seems like it's co-efficient based with there will be some "random draw" to it.

Time will tell, I guess.
Read my post, bro.

At the start of the season, the 36 participants will be divided into four pots of nine. Pot 1 will include the reigning champions as well as the eight clubs with the best coefficients. Pots 2, 3 and 4 will be ordered on club coefficients.


Each team will be drawn to play two teams from each pot, including their own. That means fans will be able to watch the best teams play each other much earlier than before as each team from Pot 1 will play two other teams from Pot 1 in the group stage. Clubs from the same country will generally be kept apart in the group stage. However, associations with four or more teams competing in the Champions League could play one match against a club from the same league. So fans could see two Premier League giants in action against each other in the group stage.

There will be only one draw for the round of 16 onwards, with teams being seeded based on their position in the group stage.
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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Read my post, bro.

At the start of the season, the 36 participants will be divided into four pots of nine. Pot 1 will include the reigning champions as well as the eight clubs with the best coefficients. Pots 2, 3 and 4 will be ordered on club coefficients.


Each team will be drawn to play two teams from each pot, including their own. That means fans will be able to watch the best teams play each other much earlier than before as each team from Pot 1 will play two other teams from Pot 1 in the group stage. Clubs from the same country will generally be kept apart in the group stage. However, associations with four or more teams competing in the Champions League could play one match against a club from the same league. So fans could see two Premier League giants in action against each other in the group stage.

There will be only one draw for the round of 16 onwards, with teams being seeded based on their position in the group stage.
 

Springyouth

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Sep 7, 2023
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I haven't watched Champions League in ages, I think the last one I've seen was the incredible final between Liverpool and Milan.
For me all the fun was watching some team I had no idea existed battling against the giant.

Basically it lost me when not only champions were introduced as regulars.

Eg. always had a soft spot for Rosenborg:
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