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Weren't Italian teams of the 90's to early 00's filthy rich, outspending everyone else? Finances usually determines who is "best", no?

Real Madrid?
I think the difference relies that in the past everybody was allowed to have money and spend it without limits (of course, another thing is *actually* having the money), but now only PSG and City are allowed to spend unlimited amounts of money, while other teams cannot. FFP is for everybody except City and PSG, which is undoubtedly unfair.
 

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Goodfella

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I think the difference relies that in the past everybody was allowed to have money and spend it without limits (of course, another thing is *actually* having the money), but now only PSG and City are allowed to spend unlimited amounts of money, while other teams cannot. FFP is for everybody except City and PSG, which is undoubtedly unfair.
Why aren't other teams allowed to "have and spend loads of money"? City and PSG are not the only ones who've been spending the last decade.
 

Hist

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So it's a matter of proportions? Calcio was breaking financial records while Real was supposedly "state backed" and has loads of money to spend like crazy, Perez is up there as well.

Not being able to spend as well as others and then crying about it is just sour grapes.
Everyone talking about City as if they won 5 CLs, it’s just one guys and they have not won it yet. PSG got nothing either.

Meanwhile Milan was owned and run by the corrupt prime minister himself and state backed Madrid won it plenty of times at the peak of this backing. That Madrid bought Ronaldo and Kaka and before that Ronaldo and Zidane, Figo and Beckham they invented the Galacticos concept.

Was Inter an oil club too or no? Or is Moratti oil money environmentally friendly?
 

Goodfella

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Everyone talking about City as if they won 5 CLs, it’s just one guys and they have not won it yet. PSG got nothing either.

Meanwhile Milan was owned and run by the corrupt prime minister himself and state backed Madrid won it plenty of times at the peak of this backing. That Madrid bought Ronaldo and Kaka and before that Ronaldo and Zidane, Figo and Beckham they invented the Galacticos concept.

Was Inter an oil club too or no? Or is Moratti oil money environmentally friendly?
Yeah but they are not Ay-rabs you know, so no problem :baus:
 

Bianconero81

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You both disgust me with your sentimentality. Back then, the playing field was a lot more level.

What The Camel Shagging Cunts from Paris and Plastic Bags Moneyfags from Manchester (along with the other blue plastic shitcunts in London) are doing is destroying the game.
 

Hist

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Yeah but they are not Ay-rabs you know, so no problem :baus:
Roman Abrahomivic oil is clean oil too :lol:

To be fair there was some noise about him too but it didn’t last long even though his club actually won the CL twice

What’s even more embarrassing is how fans often change their tune once there’s a bid for their club. Go on red cafe and read the threads about Qatars takeover. Totally different tune from what they used to say right before the World Cup.

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Wait. If I hate what the corrupt Khaleeji cunts are doing, does that make me racist, even if I am Egyptian myself? :boh: :numnum: :b81:

Just to be clear, I dislike Egyptians too. It's a shame they get to live in such a beautiful country and destroy it.
I am Egyptian too and yes Egyptians can be really racist too towards Khaleejis Sudanis you name it.

I don’t think it’s intentional racism most people who hold this double standard do not do so with Racism explicitly in mind. Most of the time folks aren’t aware that some of their beliefs have underlying racist assumptions even if they themselves are not racist

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You both disgust me with your sentimentality. Back then, the playing field was a lot more level.

What The Camel Shagging Cunts from Paris and Plastic Bags Moneyfags from Manchester (along with the other blue plastic shitcunts in London) are doing is destroying the game.
Your casual use of racist and homophobic slurs does not make them less that. You get away with it because white folks will tend to hold you to a lower standard than they hold themselves/their own. You’re holding yourself to a lesser standard than you’d hold them.

I’d even wager that racism in our Egyptian culture is much more pervasive than in the West and ofc the homophobia is next level. You get away with it because you’re Egyptian and that magically disarms western folks.
 
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DAiDEViL

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Disliking oil clubs = being racist. Such a lame ass argument.

And what double standard?

Name a single user on here who does not dislike Chelsea.

Also, I can assure you my "tune" won't change should we ever get sold to oil money. I'd just stop supporting the club and be done with football altogether.
 

Hist

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Disliking oil clubs = being racist. Such a lame ass argument.

And what double standard?

Name a single user on here who does not dislike Chelsea.

Also, I can assure you my "tune" won't change should we ever get sold to oil money. I'd just stop supporting the club and be done with football altogether.
Underlying racist assumptions not necessarily racist as an individual. The double standard is in the difference attitude towards say Moratti or Roman oil money or Berlusconi corruption money vs. Qatar or UAE. Madrid state backing vs PSG.

It’s all dirty money and dirty individuals. The double standard is in the selective outrage when it’s Arab as if that’s somehow categorically worse than if it’s Russian or Italian. There is no moral high ground here
 

GordoDeCentral

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Underlying racist assumptions not necessarily racist as an individual. The double standard is in the difference attitude towards say Moratti or Roman oil money or Berlusconi corruption money vs. Qatar or UAE. Madrid state backing vs PSG.

It’s all dirty money and dirty individuals. The double standard is in the selective outrage when it’s Arab as if that’s somehow categorically worse than if it’s Russian or Italian. There is no moral high ground here
Shirley you jest, all the same really? I dont know what you do for a living but i am pretty sure you can get a good salary in UAE or Qatar so why live in the west? It's the same shit right. Nah I'll tell you what's going on, living in the west instead of amongst your brethren is just you displaying in full color your unwavering racism through the choosing of living in a white majority country. You see, more than anyone here, you my friend champion the validity of white supremacy. Wanna know why? You left everything to be in whiteyland. For you it's not just a belief, it's a belief backed by life altering actions. I think that makes you the biggest white supremacist in the forum.
 

Hist

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Shirley you jest, all the same really? I dont know what you do for a living but i am pretty sure you can get a good salary in UAE or Qatar so why live in the west? It's the same shit right. Nah I'll tell you what's going on, living in the west instead of amongst your brethren is just you displaying in full color your unwavering racism through the choosing of living in a white majority country. You see, more than anyone here, you my friend champion the validity of white supremacy. Wanna know why? You left everything to be in whiteyland. For you it's not just a belief, it's a belief backed by life altering actions. I think that makes you the biggest white supremacist in the forum.
Western countries on average are better run and do have better rule of law, better institutions and more rights. That’s why I moved to Canada and became a citizen.

How is that relevant to why Moratti and Roman oil money is somehow better than Qatari oil money? How is one ethical and one not?

And :lol: at your reducing what’s attractive about the Western countries to the white population within it :facepalm:

Everyone else is riding your achievements eh? Are we guests in whitey land?
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Western countries on average are better run and do have better rule of law, better institutions and more rights. That’s why I moved to Canada and became a citizen.

How is that relevant to why Moratti and Roman oil money is somehow better than Qatari oil money? How is one ethical and one not?

And :lol: at your reducing what’s attractive about the Western countries to the white population within it :facepalm:

Everyone else is riding your achievements eh? Are we guests in whitey land?
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Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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Western countries on average are better run and do have better rule of law, better institutions and more rights. That’s why I moved to Canada and became a citizen.

How is that relevant to why Moratti and Roman oil money is somehow better than Qatari oil money? How is one ethical and one not?

And :lol: at your reducing what’s attractive about the Western countries to the white population within it :facepalm:

Everyone else is riding your achievements eh? Are we guests in whitey land?
you fucked up should've went to the states if you're hellbent on going out west
 

JuveJay

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Everyone talking about City as if they won 5 CLs, it’s just one guys and they have not won it yet. PSG got nothing either.

Meanwhile Milan was owned and run by the corrupt prime minister himself and state backed Madrid won it plenty of times at the peak of this backing. That Madrid bought Ronaldo and Kaka and before that Ronaldo and Zidane, Figo and Beckham they invented the Galacticos concept.

Was Inter an oil club too or no? Or is Moratti oil money environmentally friendly?
Main and only real difference is that they were owned by people from their own countries, so it feels like a victory for those countries and clubs, a local identity in fact.

Random Chinese, Arab, American owners means it'll never be the same, but that's just sport. Not that foreign supporters care of course.

Oh, and despicable human rights record of said shitholes, but I appreciate that those things don't matter depending on POV/whataboutism.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Everyone talking about City as if they won 5 CLs, it’s just one guys and they have not won it yet. PSG got nothing either.

Meanwhile Milan was owned and run by the corrupt prime minister himself and state backed Madrid won it plenty of times at the peak of this backing. That Madrid bought Ronaldo and Kaka and before that Ronaldo and Zidane, Figo and Beckham they invented the Galacticos concept.

Was Inter an oil club too or no? Or is Moratti oil money environmentally friendly?
Main and only real difference is that they were owned by people from their own countries, so it feels like a victory for those countries and clubs, a local identity in fact.

Random Chinese, Arab, American owners means it'll never be the same, but that's just sport. Not that foreign supporters care of course.

Oh, and despicable human rights record of said shitholes, but I appreciate that those things don't matter depending on POV/whataboutism.
 
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