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Lol at people thinking var will somehow end Real's cheating? Remember when Ramos escaped a ban because the dugout wasnt pitch level. Get the fuck out of here
 

Vlad

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How exactly is Real cheating? Ramos is despicable cunt, but his playing style is reminiscent of some of the old school Italian defenders, elbow to the ribs when ref isnt looking, pinching opponents, provoking them. That's dirty but hardly constitutes cheating. Lets not be like Napoli or Roma fans, blaming ref decisions for our failures. :p
 

campionesidd

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How exactly is Real cheating? Ramos is despicable cunt, but his playing style is reminiscent of some of the old school Italian defenders, elbow to the ribs when ref isnt looking, pinching opponents, provoking them. That's dirty but hardly constitutes cheating. Lets not be like Napoli or Roma fans, blaming ref decisions for our failures. :p
Wait, elbowing players is not a red card offense? Diving and getting other players sent off isn't cheating? Violating doping standards isn't cheating? Getting dubious calls that decide the entire fate of the tournament isn't important?
 

Vlad

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Wait, elbowing players is not a red card offense? Diving and getting other players sent off isn't cheating? Violating doping standards isn't cheating? Getting dubious calls that decide the entire fate of the tournament isn't important?
Is there a proof Real violated doping standards? Do you believe another Spiegel article then that Ronaldo raped Mayorga?
If ref doesnt see an elbow, its not a red card. And dubious calls is such bs, the same argument Napoli fans will use against us. Hogwash :p Ramos is cunning player but you know Chiellini isnt exactly a saint either.
 
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campionesidd

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Is there a proof Real violated doping standards? Do you believe another Spiegel article then that Ronaldo raped Mayorga?
If ref doesnt see an elbow, its not a red card. And dubious calls is such bs, the same argument Napoli fans will use against us. Hogwash :p
That is such bullshit. It's like the people who said Zidane didn't deserve a red card for his headbutt cause the ref didn't see it. Also, in the Serie A if you lose a game due to bad decisions, you lose 3 points. If it happens in the CL, you go out. How can you not say our exits in 2016 and 2018 were because of horrendous referee errors that would never have happened under VAR?
 

Vlad

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That is such bullshit. It's like the people who said Zidane didn't deserve a red card for his headbutt cause the ref didn't see it. Also, in the Serie A if you lose a game due to bad decision, you lose 3 points. If it happens in the CL, you go out. How can you not say our exits in 2016 and 2018 were because of horrendous referee errors that would never have happened under VAR?
We played hell of a game in Madrid but that penalty call was 55-45 imho. 55% as it wouldnt stand if some other ref was officiating. But in the end it comes down to how ref evaluates situation. Look at this weekend derby game Roma vs Inter and penalty not given to Roma despite using Var. Was inter cheating? Nonsense. Our exit in 2016? We have only ourselves to blame for squandering 2-0 lead.
 

campionesidd

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We played hell of a game in Madrid but that penalty call was 55-45 imho. 55% as it wouldnt stand if some other ref was officiating. But in the end it comes down to how ref evaluates situation. Look at this weekend derby game Roma vs Inter and penalty not given to Roma despite using Var. Was inter cheating? Nonsense. Our exit in 2016? We have only ourselves to blame for squandering 2-0 lead.
Let's agree to disagree.
 

Vlad

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Let's agree to disagree.
Its cool bro :p also I disagree that 1 bad decision can influence the game as much. If a team has enough character, they can turn it around. We got some less then favorable decisions so far in Serie A but that doesnt stop us. Somehow our legs became leaden when it come to final stages of the CL, finals particularly. :)
 

Vlad

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Do you recall Juve vs Real in 2015? I think we got some nice decisions in our favor that night but in the end we were better side and won. The fact that we only have 2 CL to our name isnt down to bad officiating or Real's or Milan's 12&7 because of some special treatment they get. In every of the 5 lost finals Ive watched, we didnt look like a team we had been while reaching the final.

2017 - complete meltdown in 2nd half.

2015 - good spells of game but underdog mentality kicked in at the end.

2003 - Without Nedved we looked like we were playing for a draw and hoping to win on penalties.

1998 - Favorites to win but once again underdog mentality kicked in until Real took the lead. We tried too little too late.

1997 - Super favorites, but looked confused and out of place in the opening 20-25 minutes, which Borussia took advantage of.
 
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lgorTudor

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The ignoring of Messi and CR7 is a joke really

Modric wasn't even the best Croatian player during the WC while CR7 was the best Portuguese. Also CR7 was better in CL than Luka

If CR7 was at Real he would have won the Ballon
 
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