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DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Not necessarily. Thats what I'm trying to argue. Everyone knows how Klopps teams are going to play, it doesn't mean you'll know how to stop it though. Thats why tactical flexibility IMO is a vastly overrated trait when it comes to managers. Pep knows how Klopp is going to play everytime, Pep is also a coach that has a brilliant record against a lot of very good managers, yet even he hasn't been able to come up with a way to consistently counter Klopps teams even when the latter's teams have been mostly inferior.
Pep did, and so did the entire league when Klopps Dortmund turned into a relegation struggler for months, cause the enire league figured out how to play against him and Klopp couldn't find an answer to it, and eventually ended up finishing 7th (47:42 goal difference, 46 points) With what clearly was the 2nd best team in the league.

You don't play against Klopp sides. You let them play, just like Pep did once or twice. He Set up with a back 5 (343/523) and gave them the ball, watching Jürgen scratch his head and continue the same approach for 90 minutes, cause he can't adapt to save his life. It's just that Pep seems to be too proud to give possession to the other team, otherwise i see no reason why he wouldn't make use of that successful tactic again.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Pep did, and so did the entire league when Klopps Dortmund turned into a relegation struggler for months, cause the enire league figured out how to play against him and Klopp couldn't find an answer to it, and eventually ended up finishing 7th (47:42 goal difference, 46 points) With what clearly was the 2nd best team in the league.

You don't play against Klopp sides. You let them play, just like Pep did once or twice. He Set up with a back 5 (343/523) and gave them the ball, watching Jürgen scratch his head and continue the same approach for 90 minutes, cause he can't adapt to save his life. It's just that Pep seems to be too proud to give possession to the other team, otherwise i see no reason why he wouldn't make use of that successful tactic again.
What about Allegris twilight at Milan? Pep at City last season? There's not a coach out there thats coaching long enough and hasnt had a bad period, Klopps lows are low, but you got to appreciate his highs as well
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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2 CL finals with very limited super young squads beating the likes of Madrid with BVB and Pep's City with Pool and winning the Bundesliga against all odds with BVB. Doing all of that while playing some of the most attractive football in the world, bulldozing equal and weaker squads along the way in the CL and people here are claiming he is an inept coach.

He is getting results and plays with style and never had an infinite budget. Once again showing that you can be on a tight budget and a limited squad, and yet get results without playing snoozefest football.

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::lol3::
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Oh, I am not saying it's never the other team's fans that are at fault. But the way the (English) media report these cases is ridiculous to say the least.
Someone went to a football match and got stabbed and might die. I don't think much else needs to be said.

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Also, we're down to three healthy midfielders and we have Stoke on the weekend.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Someone went to a football match and got stabbed and might die. I don't think much else needs to be said.

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Also, we're down to three healthy midfielders and we have Stoke on the weekend.

Maybe not. But it's easier to blame the foreign fans it seems. Even if it is always the English that get into these situations.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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Maybe not. But it's easier to blame the foreign fans it seems. Even if it is always the English that get into these situations.
He was Irish. Roma ultras have a reputation of stabbing, I don't think they need much of a reason. Besides what would deserve being stabbed for?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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He was Irish. Roma ultras have a reputation of stabbing, I don't think they need much of a reason. Besides what would deserve being stabbed for?
I'm not sure where I wrote that he deserved getting stabbed?

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4 hours:nervous:
I bet @Maddy can't wait to neutralize all over Ronaldo's bare torso when the inevitable goal comes.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Someone went to a football match and got stabbed and might die. I don't think much else needs to be said.

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Also, we're down to three healthy midfielders and we have Stoke on the weekend.
what if another one gets injured on weekend, do you guys have any other formation you are familiar with this season other than 433?
 

Dantes

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Dec 15, 2017
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Maybe not. But it's easier to blame the foreign fans it seems. Even if it is always the English that get into these situations.
Maybe we should blame the victim? Him giving his 'come stab me eyes' at the perpetrator and dressing all provocatively by not wearing body armour.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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what if another one gets injured on weekend, do you guys have any other formation you are familiar with this season other than 433?
We've played a funky 442 with Salah and Bobby up top. But I don't think we have the numbers to make that work.

We will probably play a youngster or two on the weekend.

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Maybe not. But it's easier to blame the foreign fans it seems. Even if it is always the English that get into these situations.
Well in this case they did stab a guy and apparently are always stabbing guys.
 

Dantes

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Dec 15, 2017
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We've played a funky 442 with Salah and Bobby up top. But I don't think we have the numbers to make that work.

We will probably play a youngster or two on the weekend.
With the confidence that the Liverpool squad will have right now, in front of happy home fans, a buoyant Klopp and some decent weather this weekend in the North - they could play half the youth team and they'll still win.
 

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