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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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After hearing George Bush's words today, I have nothing to say but

"Forza Russia..."

And a very stupid step by Poland IMO...
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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looks like Poland is next on Russia's "list"....only a matter of time and geography will be mush easier for schoolchildren, when the entire portion of Eastern Europe is called the USSR, once again

Russia: Poland risks attack because of US missiles


MOSCOW - A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile interceptor base exposes the ex-communist nation to attack, possibly by nuclear weapons, the Interfax news agency reported.



The statement by Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn is the strongest threat that Russia has issued against the plans to put missile defense elements in former Soviet satellite nations.

Poland and the United States on Thursday signed a deal for Poland to accept a missile interceptor base as part of a system the United States says is aimed at blocking attacks by rogue nations. Moscow, however, feels it is aimed at Russia's missile force.

"Poland, by deploying (the system) is exposing itself to a strike — 100 percent," Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of staff, was quoted as saying.

He added, in clear reference to the agreement, that Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn that would include elements of strategic deterrence systems, he said, according to Interfax.

At a news conference earlier Friday, Nogovitsyn had reiterated Russia's frequently stated warning that placing missile-defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic would bring an unspecified military response. But his subsequent reported statement substantially stepped up a war of words.

U.S. officials have said the timing of the deal was not meant to antagonize Russian leaders at a time when relations already are strained over the recent fighting between Russia and Georgia over the separatist Georgian region of South Ossetia.

Russian forces went deep into Georgia in the fighting, raising wide concerns that Russia could be seeking to occupy parts of its small, pro-U.S. neighbor, which has vigorously lobbied to join NATO, or even to force its government to collapse.

Under the agreement that Warsaw and Washington reached Thursday, Poland will accept an American missile interceptor base.

"We have crossed the Rubicon," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said, referring to U.S. consent to Poland's demands after more than 18 months of negotiations.

Washington says the planned system, which is not yet operational, is needed to protect the U.S. and Europe from possible attacks by missile-armed "rogue states" like Iran. The Kremlin, however, feels it is aimed at Russia's missile force and warns it will worsen tensions.

In an interview on Poland's news channel TVN24, Tusk said the United States agreed to help augment Poland's defenses with Patriot missiles in exchange for placing 10 missile defense interceptors in the Eastern European country.

He said the deal also includes a "mutual commitment" between the two nations to come to each other's assistance "in case of trouble."

That clause appeared to be a direct reference to Russia.

Poland has all along been guided by fears of a newly resurgent Russia, an anxiety that has intensified with Russia's offensive in Georgia. In past days, Polish leaders said that fighting justified Poland's demands that it get additional security guarantees from Washington in exchange for allowing the anti-missile base on its soil.


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the Russians fail to mention that we tried to include them in this missile defence system.....this is just another excuse for their aggression

a tiger never changes its stripes.....
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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What did he say? Links?
Bush attacks 'bullying' Russia as Condoleezza Rice arrives in Georgia

President Bush warned Russia today that it must withdraw its troops from Georgia or face international isolation as his Secretary of State arrived in Tbilisi to push through a ceasefire agreement.

In a hawkish statement, Mr Bush derided Russian foreign policy as merely “bullying and intimidation” which he said was untenable in the 21st century.

His pronouncement came the day after US officials accused Russia of operating a scorched earth policy in a campaign to cripple its neighbour's ability to defend itself in the future.

Condoleezza Rice was in the Georgian capital today trying to persuade the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to sign a six-point plan to ensure a peaceful resolution to the Caucasus conflict. Mr Saakashvili endorsed the agreement during a visit by President Sarkozy of France earlier this week but has yet to formally sign it.

At the same time Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, was holding talks with President Medvedev in Sochi, a Black Sea resort near Georgia.

All three Western politicians have repeated the same demand that Russia withdraw its troops and respect the existing Georgian borders.

Ms Rice arrived in Tbilisi this morning with the ceasefire accord still missing a Georgian signature.

Under the agreement, Moscow has withdraw its combat forces from Georgia. But it allows Russian peacekeepers to remain in South Ossetia and conduct limited patrols outside the region.

It also does not commit Russia to respecting Georgia’s territorial integrity, mentioning instead only Georgian “independence” and “sovereignty”. Mr Bush has said that the United States supports both Georgia's sovereignty and territorial intergrity - ie its current borders.

Moscow does not accept that South Ossetia and Abkhazia, another breakaway province, are necessarily Georgian and today President Medvedev reiterated the Russian claim that it is impossible for Georgia to safely rule over the entire country.

“Unfortunately after what has happened it is unlikely that the Ossetians and the Abkhazians will be able to live in one state together with the Georgians,” he said, adding that his soldiers were ready to respond with force if they were attacked again.

US officials want the eventual status of the two areas to be worked out under existing UN Security Council resolutions which recognise Georgia’s international borders and Abkhazia and South Ossetia as Georgian.

The US and European Union had been pushing for Russia to agree to restore the situation in Georgia to the “status quo ante” - the position before Georgian troops moved into South Ossetia last week.

They now appear to have been forced to back down on the key issues of the mandate of Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia, which did not previously include outside patrols, and the territorial integrity question, which Russia had accepted prior to the conflict.

While negotiations continued in Europe, President Bush held a press conference at the White House in which he declared: “The Cold War is over.”

“With its actions in recent days, Russia has damaged its credibility and its relations with the nations of the free world. Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century,” he said.


thetimes.co.uk
so what did he say that was so bad ??

we are agreeing to let the Russians stay in Georgia....

"you can stay there, dear communist friends, and control things....but the country will still be called Georgia"........what a joke !!

who's next, Ukraine or Poland ??
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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so what did he say that was so bad ??

we are agreeing to let the Russians stay in Georgia....

"you can stay there, dear communist friends, and control things....but the country will still be called Georgia"........what a joke !!

who's next, Ukraine or Poland ??
I say let Russia do what it wants and let the rest of the world sort things out.
 

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