"Carry on Referee" KKS Lech Poznań - Juventus (20 Viewers)

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I fail to see in what aspect is Del Neri better than Ranieri, Snoop.
He's not, but it was probably necessary to appoint another manager of this sort to put in a solid season to get Juve back to the point they were at before last season's mistakes.

Then, hopefully, better decisions will be made this time round to allow Juve to make the step up in quality to be able to challenge for titles.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
FK UEFA coefficients - as long as Juve can keep getting better

Italian teams

Do they really not take the EL seriously or...

Are they really shite in comparison to the rest of Europe? I mean Samp lost at home to PSV!
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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He's not, but it was probably necessary to appoint another manager of this sort to put in a solid season to get Juve back to the point they were at before last season's mistakes.

Then, hopefully, better decisions will be made this time round to allow Juve to make the step up in quality to be able to challenge for titles.
True.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
I fail to see in what aspect is Del Neri better than Ranieri, Snoop.
I think the "we're playing a better football compared to earlier..." is an overused sentence which is true only compared to last seasons and not the previous seasons.
imo we are playing much better than the previous ones too, Ranieri was a disaster, sure we were in top 3 twice with him, result wise not bad, actually good, but come on, Ranieri? Did you forget his terrible subs and tactics? did u forget how took attackers and put in defenders to save the 1-1 results? Fiorentina match comes to mind.

I didn't see anything retarded like that from Del Neri so far, yes so far we are better, and playing better. And don't deny that the competition is tougher this year, look at how many teams are close to each others at the top.

I can't prove you anything now, I didn't present you those as fact, they are opinions, end of the year will show us what the fact is.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
He's not, but it was probably necessary to appoint another manager of this sort to put in a solid season to get Juve back to the point they were at before last season's mistakes.

Then, hopefully, better decisions will be made this time round to allow Juve to make the step up in quality to be able to challenge for titles.
Sure Del Neri is not a top manager, no one is claiming that. He is fulfilling his job, we can't discredit that, apart from the Ranieri comparison, I second what you said too.
 

Kolejorz

New Member
Dec 1, 2010
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Sorry for earlier dawg. No hard feelings? Hope you win the Europe League ;)
sorry for the first post that was a bit provocative too, so I am not surprised that you reacted so ;) and I had to respond, what continued the stupid beef, and I didn't mean to do that ;) thanks very much, it'll be hard, but we have still got Peszko, Rudnevs and bunch of other nice players, so I think it may be good. Sorry for trolling before too, hope that you don't mind it :)


Sign Rudnevs in January.
noo, he still has duties for Lech in EL ;) at least in the summer ;)
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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imo we are playing much better than the previous ones too, Ranieri was a disaster, sure we were in top 3 twice with him, result wise not bad, actually good, but come on, Ranieri? Did you forget his terrible subs and tactics? did u forget how took attackers and put in defenders to save the 1-1 results? Fiorentina match comes to mind.

I didn't see anything retarded like that from Del Neri so far, yes so far we are better, and playing better. And don't deny that the competition is tougher this year, look at how many teams are close to each others at the top.

I can't prove you anything now, I didn't present you those as fact, they are opinions, end of the year will show us what the fact is.
I think that the pre-Calciopoli and last season have a lot to do with such an opinion. In Ranieri's time we were used to a great Juve and what Ranieri's Juve played was such a disappointment from what we were used to seeing. In Del Neri's time we have last season in our mind and what we're playing looks good.
In reality I don't think that we're playing any better at all compared to 2007 and 2008.
The good thing in all this though is that we're a work in progress. Ranieri failed to make the step forward and we didn't make any improvements. Del Neri still has time to make the step Ranieri couldn't make.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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sorry for the first post that was a bit provocative too, so I am not surprised that you reacted so ;) and I had to respond, what continued the stupid beef, and I didn't mean to do that ;) thanks very much, it'll be hard, but we have still got Peszko, Rudnevs and bunch of other nice players, so I think it may be good. Sorry for trolling before too, hope that you don't mind it :)




noo, he still have duties for Lech in EL ;) at least in the summer ;)

No hard feelings bro. You have potential right there, Peszko and Rudnevs are pretty good players. What are the chances of Rudnevs leaving Lech Poznan? Is there any European club interested? I think our general manager Marotta got heads up for him.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
I think that the pre-Calciopoli and last season have a lot to do with such an opinion. In Ranieri's time we were used to a great Juve and what Ranieri's Juve played was such a disappointment from what we were used to seeing. In Del Neri's time we have last season in our mind and what we're playing looks good.
In reality I don't think that we're playing any better at all compared to 2007 and 2008.
The good thing in all this though is that we're a work in progress. Ranieri failed to make the step forward and we didn't make any improvements. Del Neri still has time to make the step Ranieri couldn't make.
ofcourse we are better than last year, no one has any doubt about that. I know what I am comparing to what. I am not thinking last season's matches with today, I am comparing those 7 draws or was it more? Those are still fresh in my memory. Did you forget them this fast Alen? Don't you remember how boring was to watch Ranieri's Juve? I remember them very good, apart from Palermo match, with Del Neri we were always playing football, we were always having chances, that is what manager does, to create a team that can create attacks and chances to score. Was it like that at Ranieri's time?

Ranieri is so negative man, defensive minded, remember how he was criticized in Roma for his defensive mind, Inter was terrible in the league last year, if he was a fuckin winner, he could take that opportunity and win the league, it happened with us at first year too, we had the chance to win the league against Inter, but his stupid decisions cost us many games, and we ended behind Inter.

I was so sure the loser won't win the league when he was ahead of Inter with Roma last year at the last rounds, but he is no winner.

Re-check his results with Juve, first year we ended 13 points behind the leader, 3rd place, his second year we ended 10 points behind the leader.

So if we end up less point difference behind the leader, would you consider that as a success, as a better result that Ranieri's? If you do, then I will bet with you or anyone that Del Neri will do that.
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
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Ranieri had a better team to work with also.
so you say a "past it" cannavaro (who in my opinion still was useful) is better then bonucci ?
zanetti who was always injured and nocerino where better central midfielders than melo and aquilani ?
marchionni was better than krasic ?
the balerina tiago was better than todays marchisio ?

oh boy ... you guys really have a really short memory :p

the only better thing we got back then was nedved.... fullstop
 

Kolejorz

New Member
Dec 1, 2010
12
No hard feelings bro. You have potential right there, Peszko and Rudnevs are pretty good players. What are the chances of Rudnevs leaving Lech Poznan? Is there any European club interested? I think our general manager Marotta got heads up for him.
He was bought in the summer for Robert Lewandowski, who was sold to Borussia, so he has been playing for only 1 round now, and there r some rumors about him signing a new 2-years conctract. I'm not sure about it. Funny thing is that Rudnevs was decent in the 3 other matches but didn't score any goal. He scores only against Juve ;)
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
First game I miss of ours this season, and it was for a stupid reason like assuming we would play on Thursday as usual. But I hear I didnt miss much, as usual. Honestly its pathetic we just embarrassed ourselves in EL 2 seasons in a row, when we are suppoed to be "too good" for it, heh.
 

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