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Ive been very unimpressed with Lippi on the NT fold, but hey it would take an amazing coach to solve the problem of Italy... 
Capello is at least in the top three of the worlds best.
Mourinho also has a very good team with Chelsea, and his Porto side were slightly lucky at times in the CL, ie Howard spilling the ball to give porto the goal.
They didnt really face such strong opposition along the way and had a good squad already. He played a defensive boring and effective style which worked wonders of course, Greece being another example of how well this works but you dont see Otto Rehagal mentioned in the same breath as him.
and now he is with Chelsea, he has built a team which is the ' Anti premiership style ', an Organised Ultra defensive counter attack style which of course took the premiership by surprise.
Not to mention he signs amazing players with the cash he has.
Overall, he is a great coach though.. among the worlds top 3. I wouldnt go ahead as to say he is the first by miles, but top 3.
Capello is top 3 though, definetly.
Capello is at least in the top three of the worlds best.
Mourinho also has a very good team with Chelsea, and his Porto side were slightly lucky at times in the CL, ie Howard spilling the ball to give porto the goal.
They didnt really face such strong opposition along the way and had a good squad already. He played a defensive boring and effective style which worked wonders of course, Greece being another example of how well this works but you dont see Otto Rehagal mentioned in the same breath as him.
and now he is with Chelsea, he has built a team which is the ' Anti premiership style ', an Organised Ultra defensive counter attack style which of course took the premiership by surprise.
Not to mention he signs amazing players with the cash he has.
Overall, he is a great coach though.. among the worlds top 3. I wouldnt go ahead as to say he is the first by miles, but top 3.
Capello is top 3 though, definetly.
AXL, you love making threads like this dont you? As for Capello, he's certainly not the best coach in the world by any stretch of the imagination. Given that he's won titles at 4 different teams but I think thats quick to eclipse his performances with those teams over a period of time. In addition, the kind of teams he's had, couldnt really go wrong with whoever was coach. So I wouldnt credit him with being a stupendous coach. In fact, I think his CV actually looks better than what he is as a coach. As for Lippi being the best coach in the world, I'll reserve my judgment until after the world cup. He's certainly up there though, as far as I'm concerned.
Mourinho definetely.
First ,2 successes with Porto-UEFA CUP,C.L
than straightaway Chelsea's title,and 2 half finals of the C.L. with the current club.
His way of acting is detterring,he can ban such a player like Carvalho which is one of the best DCs.He is using a paper messages which are prepared and given to Terry (captain propagates the message than to the rest of the team).
Mourinho's face is always the same,you never know what he thinks,winning by 4 goals advance, or loosing(which is rarely) his look on the face is always the same.
First ,2 successes with Porto-UEFA CUP,C.L
than straightaway Chelsea's title,and 2 half finals of the C.L. with the current club.
His way of acting is detterring,he can ban such a player like Carvalho which is one of the best DCs.He is using a paper messages which are prepared and given to Terry (captain propagates the message than to the rest of the team).
Mourinho's face is always the same,you never know what he thinks,winning by 4 goals advance, or loosing(which is rarely) his look on the face is always the same.
You wrote best coaches, not greatest coaches.
Mourinho IS the best IMO. There is no coach in the world who has accomplished so much in just five years.
MOURINHO'S CV
2000-1: Lasted just nine games as Benfica coach before resigning after a contract row, then moving to Uniao Leiria, who he guided to the Uefa Cup
Jan 2002: Joined Porto and led them to third from their lowest ever position
2002-3: Won League, Cup and Uefa Cup treble with Porto
2003-4: Having already won the Portuguese league, Porto win European Cup final beating Monaco 3-0
2004-5:Won the premiership with Chelsea and the Carling Cup while breaking 7-8 of the premiership records.
Mourinho IS the best IMO. There is no coach in the world who has accomplished so much in just five years.
MOURINHO'S CV
2000-1: Lasted just nine games as Benfica coach before resigning after a contract row, then moving to Uniao Leiria, who he guided to the Uefa Cup
Jan 2002: Joined Porto and led them to third from their lowest ever position
2002-3: Won League, Cup and Uefa Cup treble with Porto
2003-4: Having already won the Portuguese league, Porto win European Cup final beating Monaco 3-0
2004-5:Won the premiership with Chelsea and the Carling Cup while breaking 7-8 of the premiership records.
No way would I call Capello the best coach in the world. His track record in Serie A is indeed stunning, certainly making him the best coach in Italy alone, however his Champions League record is miserable for the clubs he has coached. In 1994 when Milan had the likes of Savicevic and Boban they beat Barcelona 4-0 in the Champions League Final, however one year later in the Final the guy decided to leave Savicevic on the bench, and that proved to be disasterous. With all the resources Milan had back in the mid 90's he probably should have done much better.
The point was also made a couple months ago in another thread that Capello does not do much to improve the individual skills of existing players...now that's up for debate and the distinction has to made that improving average players is different from helping young players along in their career. Capello in the Champions League also seems to love his dogmatic approach of playing for one goal then sitting back further on in the competition...we need not look further than the Liverpool match of last season to see that Capello has this complacent attitude when it comes to taking the game to the opposition. Being 2-1 down on aggregate after Anfield and saying "we have to be patient" on the home return is just the tip of the ice berg.
In Europe the two best coaches at the moment in my mind are Mourinho and Benitez...both won the UEFA Cup and Champions League in two successive years with two teams that were not considered some of Europe's best. Mourinho turned players such as Deco and Carvalho into world class players and Benitez is one of the only coaches to actually match Mourinho when it comes to football chess. Until Capello wins another Champions League I have to consider there are better coaches than Capello...and if he cannot win the competition with this Juventus his quest of being the best will fall short.
The point was also made a couple months ago in another thread that Capello does not do much to improve the individual skills of existing players...now that's up for debate and the distinction has to made that improving average players is different from helping young players along in their career. Capello in the Champions League also seems to love his dogmatic approach of playing for one goal then sitting back further on in the competition...we need not look further than the Liverpool match of last season to see that Capello has this complacent attitude when it comes to taking the game to the opposition. Being 2-1 down on aggregate after Anfield and saying "we have to be patient" on the home return is just the tip of the ice berg.
In Europe the two best coaches at the moment in my mind are Mourinho and Benitez...both won the UEFA Cup and Champions League in two successive years with two teams that were not considered some of Europe's best. Mourinho turned players such as Deco and Carvalho into world class players and Benitez is one of the only coaches to actually match Mourinho when it comes to football chess. Until Capello wins another Champions League I have to consider there are better coaches than Capello...and if he cannot win the competition with this Juventus his quest of being the best will fall short.
Capello is far from being the best coach in the world. What does he bring new to the teams he manages?
Mourinho is the best, not only is he confident...but he has a great relationship with his players just like Rafa. What he did with Porto was amazing and I was reading and interview with Don Balon, the day after he took over at Porto and I quote "We´ll win the Uefa Cup and next year the Champions". How confident of his skills can thab man be.
Mourinho is the best, not only is he confident...but he has a great relationship with his players just like Rafa. What he did with Porto was amazing and I was reading and interview with Don Balon, the day after he took over at Porto and I quote "We´ll win the Uefa Cup and next year the Champions". How confident of his skills can thab man be.
I would consider Capello a great coach but not 1 of the best, sure his achievements in Serie A are impressive and he led 4 different teams to win the league title (including Real Madrid). But in Europe, he failed miserably due to his "negative" approach last season. Juz look at how an injury-hit Liverpool managed to get us 2 goals juz at the 1st half in the 1st leg of the quarter finals of the CL and we failed to create anything decent after that, resulting to playing long balls over a team which uses this tactic the most. And in the return home game, he "too calm" and nobody seems to be in a hurry in scoring, and with that game play, I would rather we exit at this stage. However he did bring teams trophies like league titles, even though he will still want another CL title under his name.
Mourinho is indeed 1 of the best coaches ard, and don't let his cocky attitude hinder ur judgement. He manages Porto, an unknown club in the past and guides them to win the league Cup, the UEFA Cup and the CL Cup. It's hard to guide a team that has limited resources to win so much. And his approach to EPL is the "Mourinho-style", which brings them the League Cup.
Benitez is also an outstanding coach, in 2001 he joined Valencia and he led them to win the league title. The same could be said for the 2003/2004 season, where Valencia not only won the League Title, they also won the UEFA Cup. In the 2004/2005 season, Liverpool won the CL under Benitez when everybody thought that Liverpool would be knocked out. But they managed to play on till the end. However his EPL approcah still leaves me a "?"
So I would say that I would group Benitez + Mourinho as the best coaches in the world. Lippi's contributions to Juventus are also remarkable, however we managed to get through to the final CL stage a couple of times and failing to win it, so Lippi ought to be creditted as well. However both Lippi and Capello still leave a big "?" in my mind. For the present team, I would prefer Capello for the job. Lippi is doing reasonably ok in the World Cup Qualifiers since he is still deciding who r the best players to fit his team best, especially the RB position. If Capello is mentioned, some credit ought to go to Lippi as well.
Mourinho is indeed 1 of the best coaches ard, and don't let his cocky attitude hinder ur judgement. He manages Porto, an unknown club in the past and guides them to win the league Cup, the UEFA Cup and the CL Cup. It's hard to guide a team that has limited resources to win so much. And his approach to EPL is the "Mourinho-style", which brings them the League Cup.
Benitez is also an outstanding coach, in 2001 he joined Valencia and he led them to win the league title. The same could be said for the 2003/2004 season, where Valencia not only won the League Title, they also won the UEFA Cup. In the 2004/2005 season, Liverpool won the CL under Benitez when everybody thought that Liverpool would be knocked out. But they managed to play on till the end. However his EPL approcah still leaves me a "?"
So I would say that I would group Benitez + Mourinho as the best coaches in the world. Lippi's contributions to Juventus are also remarkable, however we managed to get through to the final CL stage a couple of times and failing to win it, so Lippi ought to be creditted as well. However both Lippi and Capello still leave a big "?" in my mind. For the present team, I would prefer Capello for the job. Lippi is doing reasonably ok in the World Cup Qualifiers since he is still deciding who r the best players to fit his team best, especially the RB position. If Capello is mentioned, some credit ought to go to Lippi as well.
welll i really dont share the same ideas u guys do with about mourinho....i call him a great man management coach, tactically don fabio, lippi, and Rafa are just a class above.
winning watever he won in portugal is just worth crap as its just a mediocre league...in europe he had all the luck in the world with him and he still defended like hell. i will give him credit for using his pschology masters very well with his post match comments and b4 the game. using it with his players as well.But now if u switched wenger and mourinho, would aresnal have the same impact ?????
i like capello and i think he is one of the best.His scudettos and accomplishments with more than one club just shows how great is he.When mourinho does that then u can say he is better than capello.
winning watever he won in portugal is just worth crap as its just a mediocre league...in europe he had all the luck in the world with him and he still defended like hell. i will give him credit for using his pschology masters very well with his post match comments and b4 the game. using it with his players as well.But now if u switched wenger and mourinho, would aresnal have the same impact ?????
i like capello and i think he is one of the best.His scudettos and accomplishments with more than one club just shows how great is he.When mourinho does that then u can say he is better than capello.
It's really hard to say who is better, Capello, Mourinho or Benitez. I think that Capello is the best in turning a superstar-filled team into winners. Don't forget that Chelsea has many good players, but almost none of the calibre of Shevchenko, Vieira or Aimar. I doubt those players would accept the constant squad rotation. But Mourinho is the best tactician in the world, it may not look much but he totally outclassed every other EPL manager last season.
