Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (23 Viewers)

[Seven]

Then somewhere I'm getting confused. Taking the FIGC trial on what grounds then? If we accepted a plea bargain in Calciopoli how then can we take FIGC to court?

I don't think we ever accepted a plea bargain. That would have been a horrible idea anyway. Also, if we did, the prosecutors wouldn't have been able to take us to court as the very essence of a plea bargain is avoiding court. Yet we were involved in the Naples trial.

 

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[Mark]

@Mark didn't we accept something right before the world cup...wasn't that what we "had" to do in order for FIFA not to ban us or UEFA ban clubs from Europe. Wasn't that the "bullet" we took...the plea bargain?

that was just Juve's lawyer Zaccone answering a question on what he thought would be the right punishment for Juve and he said B.

That's why I never trusted the Elkanns in this shit. You don't admit shit especially when you don't have all the proof.

 

[Hust]

I don't think we ever accepted a plea bargain. That would have been a horrible idea anyway. Also, if we did, the prosecutors wouldn't have been able to take us to court as the very essence of a plea bargain is avoiding court. Yet we were involved in the Naples trial.

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“So I think it’s inappropriate for Juventus to ask for compensation. To plea bargain for a sanction and then claim damages is the schizophrenic behaviour of someone who wants to have their cake and eat it too.”

http://football-italia.net/64406/carraro-%E2%80%98juventus-cheated-%E2%80%9998

 

[Seven]

that was just Juve's lawyer Zaccone answering a question on what he thought would be the right punishment for Juve and he said B.

That's why I never trusted the Elkanns in this shit. You don't admit shit especially when you don't have all the proof.

Yeah, but I don't think we ever officially admitted to anything.

 

[Hust]

that was just Juve's lawyer Zaccone answering a question on what he thought would be the right punishment for Juve and he said B.

That's why I never trusted the Elkanns in this shit. You don't admit shit especially when you don't have all the proof.

So we essentially admitted it, then?

 

[Seven]

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http://football-italia.net/64406/carraro-%E2%80%98juventus-cheated-%E2%80%9998

He's saying plea bargain from his authority as FIGC president. This "plea bargain" - which it really isn't - has little bearing on a proper civil or criminal case.

 

[Hust]

Yeah, but I don't think we ever officially admitted to anything.

So we essentially admitted it, then?

 

[Mark]

Yeah, but I don't think we ever officially admitted to anything.

no, more like a faux pas. Big one too. Deliberate or not?

 

[Seven]

We didn't admit anything in a way that it would hold up in a criminal court. Again, we were not convicted of any crimes.

 

[Hust]

We didn't admit anything in a way that it would hold up in a criminal court. Again, we were not convicted of any crimes.

Ok - well lets hope eventually we find a court that sees it that way.

 

[Seven]

no, more like a faux pas. Big one too. Deliberate or not?

A faux pas, yes. Deliberate in the sense that he was trying to lower the sentence on a football level that Juventus were always going to face. The climate was such that they were gunning for our heads.

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Ok - well lets hope eventually we find a court that sees it that way.

We already have.

 

[Hust]

A faux pas, yes. Deliberate in the sense that he was trying to lower the sentence on a football level that Juventus were always going to face. The climate was such that they were gunning for our heads.

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We already have.

Not for the reparations we seek. Getting damages will be another 15 round boxing match.

 

[Seven]

Not for the reparations we seek. Getting damages will be another 15 round boxing match.

There's a difference between not being convicted for a crime and getting damages.

 

[Hust]

What a busy week:

-Calcipoli
-Marchisio
-Tuz meltdown

There is so much going on.

 

[Hængebøffer]

One thing is sure, Berlusca and Moratti are filthy rata who plotter for sure in canciopoli. No one should doubt this.

Berlusconi is rotten to the core.

You do know that Milan too were convicted in Calciopoli, right?

 

[Seven]

You do know that Milan too were convicted in Calciopoli, right?

But not really. They got to play CL and won it the following season.

 

[JuveJay]

But not really. They got to play CL and won it the following season.

Just enough points deducted to stay in the CL places

Amazing coincidence.

 

[Mark]

they took the exact pts off of meelan so they'd still make the CL and eventually won the CL.

 

[Jem83]

Then somewhere I'm getting confused. Taking the FIGC trial on what grounds then? If we accepted a plea bargain in Calciopoli how then can we take FIGC to court?

The following grounds:
1 - Unfair / unequal treatment. Based on the "summary" nature of the Calciopoli verdicts; them being very erratic and arbitrary in nature and hitting us harder than the other clubs without any substantial evidence to back it up. These views were further strengthened by Palazzi's investigation of 2011 when he found so much dirt on Inter that he concluded that they ought to be sent to Serie-B and that it was wrong to award them the 2006 title. But the statutes of limitations had passed, so there was nothing to do about it.
2 - The fact that the 2011 trial in Naples stated that Juventus weren't objectively liable for Moggi's actions (meaning that Moggi went beyond his powers as a GM when he commited his 'crimes' [the Naples court found him guilty of sporting fraud] and that Juventus S.p.A. didn't have any legal responsibility for what he did]).

We did not accept any plea bargain, but we acted in accordance with the 2006 verdict. We seemed very weak at the time. Either we had very weak lawyers, or someone stopped them from doing their jobs properly. Elkann?

 

[napoleonic]

wasn't the plea bargain from the conte case? lol...