Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (56 Viewers)

[solojuve1897]

Susy needs to shut up. Every team didn't do the same thing. Some cheated (Inter, Milan and Livorno). The rest didn't. The rest pretty much just complained about it. Some more aggressively than others.

Gsol,
What is it exactly that Palazzi in his report refer to when talking about article 6 violations in regards to Inters actions? (In other words, which calls and so forth)

 

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[Hust]

Abete came out explaining how he won’t be revoking Inter’s cardboard title with a series of runaround arguments that really amount to nothing. It was making me dizzy reading this shit. It lacked coherence. Long story short; taking the title away can’t be done without a trial because only a trial could modify the standings and a trial can’t occur unless Moratti refuses the statute of limitations. Taking the title away without a trial would be unconstitutional as it would not permit Inter’s proper defence. Had the FIGC actually handed Inter the title officially they would have been able to amend that document but no such document exists.

As I read this I couldn’t help think of a few things.

Did Moggi or any of the accused in 2006 get a proper trail complete with a right to a defence?

Is Inter really being punished if all that is happening is the revocation of a title that isn’t theirs to begin with?

If no document exists handing our title to them...isn’t it still ours?

Didn’t the 2005-2006 title get revoked without a trial at all (the investigation was for the prior season only)?

If all Moratti has to do is refute the statute in order to defend himself then how exactly is he being refused a right to defend himself?

Bottom line they are all playing the same game. They throw out a thousand excuses in order to say “we agree something should be done about that title but it shouldn’t be us to do it”. They will keep passing the hot potato around until people lose interest. In the end nothing will change.

The guys at tuttosport dug up a federation rule made in 2003 that would permit the entire retrial but clearly Abete is playing dumb and continuing with the confusing incoherent runaround arguments in an attempt to pass the uncomfortable task to someone with balls. Good luck finding those in Italy.

Loved this...

In any case, they are doing what many of us thought they would. They are focussing on a non issue and dedicating all the media attention to it. That title means fuck all to me. It's ours. It was never anyone else's and same goes for the prior title.

I am FAR MORE concerned with the double standards that the FIGC flagrantly throw around. Inter have made a history of being the Teflon Team that no charges can stick to no matter what the violation and how much proof against them surfaces.

The federation should be trying a little harder to convince us that the rules apply to everybody.

Furthermore, statutes or not we know Moratti and the Inter upper brass are capable of mass corruption and should be distanced from the sport. I would love for all the teams of Serie A to publically state that unless Moratti steps down or sells the team and the Telecom-FIGC link be severed that they will refuse registration this year. If the NFL and NBA can have lockouts why can't Serie A?

...and this.

Excellent points you brought up. But did I miss something from the 2003 ruling that could cause this all to go to retrial? What is it and how is it in the news? Or is it in the news?

 

[Juventino★★★]

google translation of http://www.tuttojuve.com/?action=read&idnotizia=56591

Juventus Fans versus Ulivieri and Tommasi

Via Allegri busy morning at both inside and outside the offices of the Football Federation, as reported by the website calciomercato.it some Juventus fans were stationed outside the Federal seat talking and questioning members of the Federal Council upon their arrival. In particular, Damiano Tommasi and Renzo Ulivieri were stopped, the first was called by a member of Vecchiasignora.com with the phrase "you remember how afraid you were player had to face Juve", while the second was badly caught by the cry "Federation of Inter, Moratti servant" who has not a little annoyed that the president dell'AssoAllenatori true then had a verbal confrontation.

good to know some fans are protesting

 

[TERENCEE]

3 hrs to press conference by moratti's puppet.

 

[Hust]

Please let us have some good news for a change.

 

[Elvin]

"you remember how afraid you were to face Juve"

Priceless

 

[TERENCEE]

Please let us have some good news for a change.

i afraid the news will disappoint u and the juventini around the world.

 

[JuveJay]

There won't be good news, don't expect anything. I'm not just being pessimistic either. However I'd like to see Agnelli stay true to his word and push forward with legal action, I'm betting the situation would change then.

 

[TERENCEE]

imo, this whole calciopoli is not about moggi, inter's paper scudetto anymore, it about justice and fairness in the italian football

 

[Cronios]

You still dont get it, the whole issue was to take us out of the picture for good and it is a complete success, even handle our titles back wont change that fact!

 

[gsol]

Gsol,
What is it exactly that Palazzi in his report refer to when talking about article 6 violations in regards to Inters actions? (In other words, which calls and so forth)

He mentioned general behaviour with few examples. He simply said that the tone of the calls were a direct attempt at interfering with the impartiality of the referee realm. I don’t have it all in front of me now (I’m not home) but I recall some of the examples regarding the “little gifts”, the request to make their record 5-4-4 as opposed to having more losses or draws than wins as well as grid interference but again, I don’t have it in front of me and I could easily be confusing things at this point due to how many transcripts and statements I’ve read.

 

[gsol]

Loved this...


...and this.

Excellent points you brought up. But did I miss something from the 2003 ruling that could cause this all to go to retrial? What is it and how is it in the news? Or is it in the news?

Just states that new evidence can supersede the statute. Won't go to retrial. In Italy rules like that get buried unless someone powerful wants to use it.

 

[solojuve1897]

Oh ok. But thanks anyway.

It would be very appreciated if you - later on when you have the opportunity - would explain which violations from Inter that Palazzi has defined as article 6.

Regards

 

[JUVEMOOD]

http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/2011/07/18-135625/Scudetto+2006%2C+passata+la+non+competenza

fuckers

inter keep the title

 

[TERENCEE]

yes. figc decided not to revoke.

 

[JUVEMOOD]

that was expected, now lets see AA take it to CONI

 

[CAPITANO]

fans outnumbered by the cops outside the figc

 

[Fake Melo]

Lol geez, it's the whole Italy!

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

Yeah - soon there won't be fans at all. If the club and its management don't give a rats ass for the titles their players won sweating on the pitch... why should the fans care? Then there is little wondering why players are not arriving - we are not a football club, but a circus. We don't care if we win, finish 7th or be relegated for no good reason - its all part of the plan. The inability of people outside the management to understand, mind you join, this plan is another big minus we'd have to battle eventually. Or not - just choose mediocrity and hire different or mentally challenged guys to represent the club and speak bs on a regular basis. Good plan - no wonder Agnelli is out of the family business and Elkann is doing whatever he fuckin' pleases.

 

[JCK]

They look scary.