But not for the new decision to ban him from football, forever. He should take that too to the civil courts, his lawyer certainly looks capable of handling more than one case 
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I presume that'll be brought up if/when everyone is found innocent.
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On what grounds are they banning him? What pathetic excuse have they used to give Moggi a life ban?
FIGC is run by moRATti's lapdogs. Only in real courts would anyone have a chance of justice, in Italy's case: - the EU court!
As Marcus Tullius Cicero asked: - Cui bono?
That's a good reason to do so. If other teams were going to be banned from europe, they would lose money! Who cares about cheats like inter playing in Europe? BAN THEM!
Or FIGC for unjustly banning him?
Yes! But who will stand up for Juve? GLMDJ?
As 'shareholders of Juve' would they be allowed to ask FIFA or UEFA to become involved?
I think what JBF means is that he could take them to court to contest the ban. He would need to win his current court case first, then take FIGC to court to contest the ban.
Then he should sue FIGC and Telecom Italia. The former for the unjust ban and the latter for their illegal phone taps violating his Human Right to privacy (He was not conducting criminal activities, so their phone taps were illegal and infringed his Human Rights).
If he could provide proof that information from any calls relating to transfers were passed to interesti, that would also be 'industrial espionage' as football clubs are technically businesses in Italy. (Difficult to prove, I guess, but I remember that inter were always 'interested' in the same players as Juve. We now know why!)
FIGC is run by moRATti's lapdogs. Only in real courts would anyone have a chance of justice, in Italy's case: - the EU court!
As Marcus Tullius Cicero asked: - Cui bono?
That's a good reason to do so. If other teams were going to be banned from europe, they would lose money! Who cares about cheats like inter playing in Europe? BAN THEM!
Or FIGC for unjustly banning him?
Yes! But who will stand up for Juve? GLMDJ?
As 'shareholders of Juve' would they be allowed to ask FIFA or UEFA to become involved?
I think what JBF means is that he could take them to court to contest the ban. He would need to win his current court case first, then take FIGC to court to contest the ban.
Then he should sue FIGC and Telecom Italia. The former for the unjust ban and the latter for their illegal phone taps violating his Human Right to privacy (He was not conducting criminal activities, so their phone taps were illegal and infringed his Human Rights).
If he could provide proof that information from any calls relating to transfers were passed to interesti, that would also be 'industrial espionage' as football clubs are technically businesses in Italy. (Difficult to prove, I guess, but I remember that inter were always 'interested' in the same players as Juve. We now know why!)
So…then what. He wins a million civil court cases and…the FIGC is still crooked. You guys are all thinking in terms of legitimacy. Even if GLMDJ could go to UEFA (which I am not sure of) nothing would happen because Telecom would just threaten everyone with money. Unless Moggi becomes more powerful than Telecom the league will stay corrupt.
The only hope left is that Telecom go to shit in their own case where Tavarolli has turned state's witness. Even still, they'll buy their way out. It's the Italian way.
The only hope left is that Telecom go to shit in their own case where Tavarolli has turned state's witness. Even still, they'll buy their way out. It's the Italian way.
Don't worry they are fine with it. They've been bought out and are making it quite clear.
It's not that I want to piss on everyone's parade but fans need to understand three things.
1) Juventus the fanns care about pride, Juventus the team care about profit and they know that pushing to get 200 million at once will only be at the expense of much more income in the future through sponsorship.
2) Italy is corrupt. From the highest court to the lowest. Have as little faith as possible their justice system but especially do not count on the FIGC.
3) Yesterday they proved that they will stop at nothing to keep Moggi out. There was no justification or new evidence against him and they simply extended his ban with no explanation.
If he went to European Court and won...so? They'll find another way to keep him out.
It's not that I want to piss on everyone's parade but fans need to understand three things.
1) Juventus the fanns care about pride, Juventus the team care about profit and they know that pushing to get 200 million at once will only be at the expense of much more income in the future through sponsorship.
2) Italy is corrupt. From the highest court to the lowest. Have as little faith as possible their justice system but especially do not count on the FIGC.
3) Yesterday they proved that they will stop at nothing to keep Moggi out. There was no justification or new evidence against him and they simply extended his ban with no explanation.
If he went to European Court and won...so? They'll find another way to keep him out.
Moggi is claiming that the FIGC banning him is a lie based on the fact that they have not communicated it to him yet. Not sure that it matters. All they have to do is sign a paper and mail it to him.
It's amazing how this last month difinitively demonstrated the agenda at the FIGC 4 years ago and the protection that Inter got in those days and now Inter's boys will benefit from a statute of limitations rule while Moggi gets banned for life.
It's amazing how this last month difinitively demonstrated the agenda at the FIGC 4 years ago and the protection that Inter got in those days and now Inter's boys will benefit from a statute of limitations rule while Moggi gets banned for life.
I didn't mean to shit on everyone's parade here but yesterday's news really got to me. It just brought out the fact that justice in Italy is less likely than we thought.
In July the Telecom sponsorship ends. Let's hope a new face emerges and ends this bullshit.
How much more evidence to people need? This is a Federal Court judge saying that the season was legitimate and there was no illicit activity back in 2006.
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Cronache/2006/07_Luglio/27/sandulli.shtml
That alone should have reopened everything...in a country with civil rights.
In July the Telecom sponsorship ends. Let's hope a new face emerges and ends this bullshit.
How much more evidence to people need? This is a Federal Court judge saying that the season was legitimate and there was no illicit activity back in 2006.
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Cronache/2006/07_Luglio/27/sandulli.shtml
That alone should have reopened everything...in a country with civil rights.
Again you are thinking in terms of logic, law, rights lie proof, evidence, double jeapardy...THIS IS ITALY...none of those things apply.
They could come up with a rule that states that a name that starts with "Luciano" and ends in "Moggi" is an automatic Article 6 violation and that will be suffcient.
They could come up with a rule that states that a name that starts with "Luciano" and ends in "Moggi" is an automatic Article 6 violation and that will be suffcient.
