Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (49 Viewers)

ReBeL

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I thought of sharing this nice article about Juve in the almighty site, Football365.com :D

Pot, Kettle, Juve


Mediawatch was greatly amused to learn over the weekend that Juventus have been complaining about the treatment they have received at the hands of Italian referees this season.

In a letter to the Italian Football Federation, the Old Lady wrote: 'Again, Juventus have been damaged in an irreversible way by a decision of the referee.'

Apropos of nothing, here's an extract at random from a conversation between former Juventus bigwig Luciano Moggi and Pierluigi 'Gigi' Pairetto, former head of the referees association in Italy in 2004:

"For Messina, send me Consolo and Battaglia...with Cassara eh?"

Perhaps Juve should just keep quiet, eh?

http://www.football365.co.uk/mediawatch/0,17033,8749_3193509,00.html
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:rofl: Ignorance is a bless, really...
 

ReBeL

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Inter Milan director Ernesto Paolillo believes Juventus's letter of complaint to the Italian soccer federation about recent refereeing decisions will have a negative effect:D :

"Everyone can react as they like but I'm convinced it creates further nervousness and pressure for the referees," he told reporters at the unveiling of a stamp for Inter's centenary.

Reuters
 

ReBeL

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And here are two different articles:

Suspicious minds

Juventus claim they’re still paying the price for Calciopoli, but Antonio Labbate would rather put it down to inept refereeing

There is no doubt about it now – Juventus believe they’re still being punished for Calciopoli. They feared it before the campaign began, intimated it after a number of questionable decisions went against them earlier in the season and have now confirmed as much in writing after Saturday’s costly reverse at Reggina.

Reaching such a verdict is an understandable conclusion for the Italian giants. They’ve lost three times in Serie A so far this term and all three defeats have followed after a number of crucial decisions went against them. While they didn’t kick up too much of a fuss after Antonio Nocerino was denied a penalty in the Udinese loss, the reverses in Naples and now Reggio Calabria received a much more tumultuous reaction.

Four years after Luciano Moggi locked Gianluca Paparesta in his dressing room for his refereeing performance at the Granillo, Paolo Dondarini perhaps deserved to suffer the same fate after his abject 90 minutes at the weekend. The official rejected three perfectly legitimate Juventus penalty claims only to then generously award the home team a match-winning spot-kick in injury time.

With Italians intrinsically equipped with a culture of suspicion – one reinforced by the Calciopoli tsunami – and living in the land of La Moviola, it’s no surprise that Juventus may feel that they are still paying for a crime which they’ve already served time for. It’s a justifiable thought process, but perhaps not entirely accurate.

While taking charge of Juventus games may not be the easiest assignment a man in black can be offered on the club’s return to Serie A, the widespread number of calamitous performances in the Italian top-flight this term suggests that it might just be a case that Pierluigi Collina’s card carriers are simply not good enough. Instead of officiating matches, referees are verging on falsifying them and, subsequently, the championship as a whole. It’s been enough for La Gazzetta to rewrite the Serie A table.

It’s a predicament which needs resolving and quickly. Collina was pinpointed as the man to give the Italian refereeing system its dignity back, but he’s got some mountain to climb. He obviously needs time to mould his recruits, but the Italian calcio scene can’t just bring a halt to the season and wait for them.

The sheer size of the problem was underlined last night by Rino Foschi. When asked whether foreign referees could provide the answer to Italy’s latest calcio crisis, the Palermo sporting director – who had just witnessed his side denied a late penalty before Milan took the game 2-1 – noted: “No, we have the best referees in the world.” There wasn’t any sarcasm in that response. Worryingly, he was being serious.

While some will relish Juventus’ latest misfortune, other followers of the game will see the wider picture. This is not about one club, but the future of a national sport. Having endured the Calciopoli years, it’s only natural that we all would want a normal, fairer, more transparent and credible championship. We’re still waiting for that to happen.

By Antonio Labbate
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And this one which makes a brief preview for Torino match too:

Furious Juventus still paying their dues for past refereeing favours


ITALIAN football seems almost comically keen to demonstrate its novel streak of probity. Perhaps Pierluigi Collina has become the equivalent of a Witchfinder General looming like an oppressive bald conscience over Italian referees. Bizarre events in Calabria on Saturday confirmed the sea change in Italian football.

Facing Reggina, the second-bottom side in Serie A, the once-mighty Juventus had three decent penalty claims turned down, before losing to a 90th-minute penalty awarded to the home team after an accidental collision, and having Cristiano Zanetti red-carded for protesting too vigorously. These are not the sort of injustices that were ever meted out to Juventus during their long domination of Italian football. It appears that Italian football is determined to show that the days of notorious ref-fixer Luciano Moggi are long gone, and the campaign can occasionally seem a little over-zealous.

The normally mild-mannered Juventus coach Claudio Ranieri was moved to talk ominously about this latest setback being only "the tip of the iceberg", hinting at a conspiracy to prevent Juventus's comeback to Serie A being even more impressive. They are a clear third in the table, but players, manager and officials believe that, with a little less intervention from referees, they could have mounted a challenge.

Ranieri focused on the referee, but he might take a little of the blame for the defeat himself, as he rested the world's best goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon. With no European interests this season, Juventus might have been expected to concentrate on the league matches and field their strongest side, but some are more important than others. One of the biggest matches of Juventus's season comes tomorrow night, in the Turin derby against Torino.

Even in the characterless, modern Stadio Olimpico (used while the Stadio Delle Alpi is renovated), this is always a fixture that can conjure up a heady atmosphere, particularly on a cold February night with the wind whistling off the mountains. Juventus fans, previously patrician sorts who probably grated truffle on their prawn sandwiches, have reinvented themselves since their humiliating exile to Serie A last season. They have adopted a "nobody likes us we don't care" attitude, and brought a persecution complex to matches, that would hardly have been softened by events in the Deep South on Saturday.

Like all derbies this has a history laced with a little bitterness. A century ago, Torino was founded by a director cast out of Juventus. Their first match was against the "mother" club, and they won it. Rather like Manchester City faced by their illustrious global brand neighbours, Torino fans regard their team as the true representatives of the northern city, with Juventus as the side of glory-hunting outsiders. In truth Juventus's following used to include a substantial proportion of southerners who had moved north to work in the Fiat factory. Now the fan-base is considerably broader, with 11 million registered supporters across Italy and 38 million worldwide.

Tomorrow's game will have all the animus of a local derby, with extra interest added by the clubs' contrasting fortunes at the weekend. While Juventus were losing, Torino mounted a spectacular comeback against Parma, recovering from 4-1 down in the first half to draw 4-4.

Torino are still on the fringes of the relegation places and still reliant on home-grown players. This didn't used to be remarkable in Italy, but in an era when Internazionale can field entirely foreign starting XIs and Milan thrive on Brazilian prodigies, it's an indication that Torino are Serie A also-rans.

Juventus's investment in the squad won't resume until the summer, and it's an indication of their present relative penury that their January spending was limited to Liverpool reserve Mohammed Sissoko, who has gone straight into the centre of midfield. Otherwise this is an ageing side, with Pavel Nedved and Alessandro Del Piero still key players well into their professional dotage, and David Trezeguet the main attacking threat.

Trezeguet, piqued by his recent exclusion from the French squad, returns against Torino after missing the Reggina match through illness. Buffon will also reclaim his jersey. Ranieri knows he cannot hunt down Internazionale at the top of Serie A, and knows that, barring meltdown, Juventus should claim a place in next season's Champions League. All that is left to play for is local pride, and an enduring sense of grievance. Don't all rush to feel sorry for them.

By TOM LAPPIN
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ReBeL said:
Inter Milan director Ernesto Paolillo believes Juventus's letter of complaint to the Italian soccer federation about recent refereeing decisions will have a negative effect:D :

"Everyone can react as they like but I'm convinced it creates further nervousness and pressure for the referees," he told reporters at the unveiling of a stamp for Inter's centenary.

Reuters
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Pingo

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Moggi contro i vertici della nuova Juve
25 02 2008


Per Luciano Moggi, ex dg della Juventus e perno dell'inchiesta Calciopoli, quella intrapresa dalla nuova società bianconera dopo l'arbitraggio di Reggio Calabria è una "strategia assolutamente perdente".

L'argomentazione, molto articolata e ben congegnata, è sintetizzata in un editoriale scritto per Petrus, quotidiano online sul Pontificato di Benedetto XVI, per cui Big Luciano cura una rubrica ogni lunedì: "Cobolli Gigli e Blanc - scrive Moggi - dicono che la Juve non può continuare a pagare colpe per le quali ha già scontato una pena estremamente severa".

"La situazione di oggi - prosegue l'ex dg bianconero - è figlia delle sue rinunce, di una strategia assolutamente perdente che l'ha indotta a non difendersi durante il processo, addirittura considerando 'congrua' la retrocessione in B con penalizzazione, di un modus operandi che l'ha spinta ad annunciare prima e a ritirare poi il ricorso al Tar e a non prendere minimamente in considerazione la possibilità di rivolgersi a tribunali sopranazionali". Come a dire: chi rompe, paga.
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Gsol will translate... :D
I don't have the time
 
Pingo

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ReBeL said:
Lovely Dondarini: "I'm convinced of the decisions I whistled for. Nevertheless, I only have two eyes and one mind!!!"
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And what are the linesmen for??? Fucking dunco...Then u got 6 eyes and 3 minds, and u still didn'd "see" the fauls on Nedved and Sissoko + 2 handplays in the box of Reggina...
 
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Rivals lead Juve backlash Monday 25 February, 2008

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Juventus’ decision to submit a letter to the FIGC complaining about refereeing decisions has met with indignation from the Old Lady’s rivals.

The Bianconeri were left fuming after Saturday’s game against Reggina when they fell foul of some controversial decisions, culminating in a penalty award that cost them a point.

It’s not the first time the Cadetti champions have been on the wrong end of refereeing errors, but the club’s rivals are angry at Juve’s choice to submit a letter to the Federation.

“I am convinced that this will just put more pressure on the referees and make them more nervous,” Inter director Ernesto Paolillo claimed.

“Every team suffers from refereeing errors sooner or later but it can be attributed to bad teething problems for new officials rather than anything sinister like in the past.”

Ahead of Tuesday evening’s derby, city rivals Torino have reacted with little sympathy to Juventus’ complaints.

“Poor Juve, having to be treated like everyone else,” a statement from supporters group Toro Club reads.

“For 100 years their millions of fans have been above all the rules and then suddenly they have suffered like everyone else has against them.”

Toro President Urbano Cairo [pictured] also feels that the timing of the letter was inappropriate.

“On the eve of a derby certain controversies are out of place and those that use that confrontational tone with referees should be strongly sanctioned,” he roared.

“Juve have their reasons, but it’s the same for everyone.”

Genoa President Enrico Preziosi also scoffed at the Turin giants’ protests.

“For me the letter is tactless,” he said. “If they want to moan then what should we do? If Juve wrote a letter then Genoa should write a book or a dossier.”

Channel 4
 
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