Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (35 Viewers)

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
Correct me if Im wrong, but the Judge doesn't disprove that they particiapated in illegal accounting, but merely states what they did is no longer illegal (since the law is now changed). Incredible.

That's the opposite of what they did to Juve. Instead of creating a law to escape punishment, they created a law so they could relegate us (which no longer exist's anymore). To think there are ppl on this forum who think were guilty is incredible.
 

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Gill_juve

Senior Member
May 29, 2006
5,494
Correct me if Im wrong, but the Judge doesn't disprove that they particiapated in illegal accounting, but merely states what they did is no longer illegal (since the law is now changed). Incredible.

That's the opposite of what they did to Juve. Instead of creating a law to escape punishment, they created a law so they could relegate us (which no longer exist's anymore). To think there are ppl on this forum who think were guilty is incredible.
milan and inter should be tried by the laws that were withstanding when they committed the illegal acts, as this court case has been going for a long time.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,756
Correct me if Im wrong, but the Judge doesn't disprove that they particiapated in illegal accounting, but merely states what they did is no longer illegal (since the law is now changed). Incredible.

That's the opposite of what they did to Juve. Instead of creating a law to escape punishment, they created a law so they could relegate us (which no longer exist's anymore). To think there are ppl on this forum who think were guilty is incredible.
exactly!!!
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
As usual, both get away

No wonder I feel that the whole trial is a joke because Milan are docked enough points to go for CL qualifiers and Inter isn't mentioned.

Now we can even get penalties against us for the slightest contact on our opponents in the box.

Awaiting for more news.
 

ESS-Juventino

Senior Member
May 6, 2005
903
Today. La Gazzetta dello Sport has created an alternative Serie A table where refereeing errors are corrected and Juventus lead the pack.

La Gazzetta dello Sport’s Serie A table:
Juventus 48 points
Inter 45
Roma 45
Milan 41
Fiorentina 36
Atalanta 33
Palermo 28
Sampdoria 28
Udinese 28
Napoli 27
Genoa 26
Reggina 25
Lazio 24
Livorno 23
Catania 21
Siena 21
Parma 19
Torino 18
Cagliari 16
Empoli 15

No need to say anything more.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,790
Today. La Gazzetta dello Sport has created an alternative Serie A table where refereeing errors are corrected and Juventus lead the pack.

La Gazzetta dello Sport’s Serie A table:
Juventus 48 points
Inter 45
Roma 45
Milan 41
Fiorentina 36
Atalanta 33
Palermo 28
Sampdoria 28
Udinese 28
Napoli 27
Genoa 26
Reggina 25
Lazio 24
Livorno 23
Catania 21
Siena 21
Parma 19
Torino 18
Cagliari 16
Empoli 15

No need to say anything more.

well that shows the true story doesnt it. but still now talk of inter scandal and inter paying the refs. fuck moratti and those ladri merda!
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
He was always going to get provoked when he bought up his conspiracy theory.What was he expecting..everyone to buy whatever he had said suddenly? People were always going to argue with him and provocation was always going to be a part of it. If he's so hell bent on bringing up such a major issue and prove the courts wrong, then he should deal with the crap he has to take here. You cant say that something this big was completley fabricated and then not expect to face opposition in all forms.
Except that Gsol was posting good stuff and he made a hell lot more sense than you have in this thread.

Shall I quote your nonsense?

I told you from the first day to ban him, this non-sense went further than it should..
Idiotic comment.

Ya it’s me, you can go ahead and ban this one too. It doesn’t bother me and your threats don’t intimidate me. I was never here for me in the first place so you won’t be doing anything personal to me by deactivating my account since I won’t use it anymore.

I always knew of and avoided forums like this one because I knew what they were and how they were run. I came here when one of your members requested that I come and post the truth about what happened. According to Vimto this site had readers in desperate need of information and asked that I provide it. Initially I refused but I eventually decided to come in temporarily.

When this thread exploded initially it was met with a lot of resistance by members and mods alike. It was demanded that I provide actual legal documents, it was demanded that I provide actual wires, it was demanded that I answer all questions. I did…every time. Now where are those who resisted so much?

They’ve all gone silent claiming that they lost interest in the topic only to later be found in other threads speaking of the triade and what they did in the hopes that I wouldn’t see it. In the meantime whether people want to admit it or not, those open to the info embraced it and learned. Now I see them in countless other websites (even in different languages) fighting and defending the club from those who try and insult it. I’m proud of them.

Those like Jack, Salman, and Denco learned too. They just don’t want to admit that maybe just maybe they didn’t know as much as they though. I firmly believe that if it had been them to find all this info first they would have started the exact same thread I started. Their problem wasn’t with the info, or with me since I did nothing to them. Their problem was that someone made them see how grossly misinformed they had been for a year and a half. It wasn’t even my info people. I just translated it…for you.

What do I get in return? I get banned for reacting to a prick whose sole purpose for being a member is to insult and provoke. Then I read “I was sorry to ban Burke”. All I can do is role my eyes. Don’t cry over banning Burke, I’m sure he’s logged in as we speak in his roommate’s account doing the same shit.

Ya jcazz was me and I never tried hiding it. I was actually going to say it was my temporary account but figured that people would realize it anyway. My tact didn’t change and I wasn’t more mature. The comments I was responding to happened to be intelligent and I agreed with them. It wasn’t the first time.

In any case my job here is done. Everyone knows a lot more and when responding to Anti-Juventini those who did learn will know how to respond. The case may be far from over and there will be plenty to add here with so many appeals set for this year. Those who wish to stay informed can always get updates by emailing [email protected].

For those who supported, thanks. For those who opposed, thanks. Your ramblings and tirades only allowed me more space with which to prove what I and many already know.

FORZA JUVE
SONO SEMPRE 29!!!!
You are an honourable man.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,320
Today. La Gazzetta dello Sport has created an alternative Serie A table where refereeing errors are corrected and Juventus lead the pack.

La Gazzetta dello Sport’s Serie A table:
Juventus 48 points
Inter 45
Roma 45
Milan 41
Fiorentina 36
Atalanta 33
Palermo 28
Sampdoria 28
Udinese 28
Napoli 27
Genoa 26
Reggina 25
Lazio 24
Livorno 23
Catania 21
Siena 21
Parma 19
Torino 18
Cagliari 16
Empoli 15

No need to say anything more.
Wow we are the Serie A leaders without errors. actually the way our team plays doesn`t really show it.
Inter has the better team nowdays and base on performances deserve to top the league. But I hope referees correct themselves and we win anyway that will give Moratti something to think about
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,367
Where is gaysol when we need him? He would have uncovered the whole story behind this ranking. Above all the reason why Gazzetta reported it.
 

ESS-Juventino

Senior Member
May 6, 2005
903
Juventus scandal was something has not direct effect on games like what we see these days on Inter' games. In Juve case, Juventus accused of some acts that somehow seems they are pushing referees for supporting them.

But today we see direct acts in games and nobody talks about scandal or something. Even in 2005-2006 referees favoured Inter most according to Gazeetta and Corriero.

Inter favoured from referees and it's obvoius.

Forza Juventus!
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,747
Where is gaysol when we need him? He would have uncovered the whole story behind this ranking. Above all the reason why Gazzetta reported it.
aparantly he is acting like a spoilt brat who gets warned to behave and tehn throws a bigger strop once they are disciplined. both he and burke were warned countless times, burke served his ban, gsol threw his dummy out of teh pram and has not been seen around these parts since, pity
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,367
aparantly he is acting like a spoilt brat who gets warned to behave and tehn throws a bigger strop once they are disciplined. both he and burke were warned countless times, burke served his ban, gsol threw his dummy out of teh pram and has not been seen around these parts since, pity
Taking a stand :lol2:
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
I wonder why " La Gazzetta dello Sport" made such a pro Juve turn, did they miss so many Juve fans and they desperately want them back?
Are they so desperate to win them back while they sacrifice some the K-Inter fans??
Are Juve fans so stupid that they might ever return to the paper that ruined their team?
Or this is Gazzetta's sadistic way to show, that they are objective?
 

Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
97,622
I wonder why " La Gazzetta dello Sport" made such a pro Juve turn, did they miss so many Juve fans and they desperately want them back?
Are they so desperate to win them back while they sacrifice some the K-Inter fans??
Are Juve fans so stupid that they might ever return to the paper that uined their team?
Or this is Gazzetta's sadistic way to shoe they are objective?
yes

yes

no :xfinger:

maybe



anyway,

Procura federale


Deferiti il Milan, l’Inter e alcuni dirigenti delle due società
Roma 05/02/2008

Deferiti Milan, Inter e alcuni dirigenti delle due società. Stralciata e rinviata per nuovi accertamenti la posizione delle altre tre società: Parma, Sampdoria e Chievo Verona.


Il Procuratore Federale, esaminati gli atti e valutate le risultanze dell’istruttoria espletata ha deferito alla Commissione Disciplinare Nazionale:
• Adriano GALLIANI, vice presidente vicario ed amministratore delegato dell’A.C. MILAN,
A) per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S., per aver sottoscritto alcuni contratti di cessioni dei diritti alle prestazioni sportive di alcuni calciatori, con abnorme e strumentale valutazione delle medesime prestazioni sportive;
B) per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S e dall’art. 7, comma 1, del C.G.S. previgente, oggi trasfuso nell’art. 8, comma 1, del C.G.S., per aver contabilizzato nel bilancio chiuso al 30 giugno 2003 delle plusvalenze (fittizie) derivanti dalla stipula dei contratti di cessione con corrispettivi di gran lunga superiori a quelli realmente attribuibili;
C) per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S e della violazione di cui all’art. 7, comma 1, del C.G.S. previgente, trasfuso nell’art. 8, comma 1, del vigente C.G.S., per aver posto in essere condotte consistite nella mancata svalutazione nei bilanci chiusi nel 2004 e nella situazione patrimoniale al 31 marzo 2005, delle poste attive già contabilizzate al 30 giugno 2003,
tutte condotte connesse fra di loro e tutte finalizzate a far apparire perdite inferiori a quelle realmente esistenti;
• la società A.C. MILAN
per responsabilità diretta, ai sensi dell’art. 2, comma 4, del previgente C.G.S., trasfuso nell’art. 4, comma 1, del vigente C.G.S., con riferimento alle condotte contestate al suo vice presidente vicario ed amministratore delegato

• Gabriele ORIALI, all’epoca dei fatti direttore tecnico, attualmente dirigente della F.C. INTERNAZIONALE
per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S., per aver sottoscritto alcuni contratti di cessioni dei diritti alle prestazioni sportive di alcuni calciatori, con abnorme e strumentale valutazione delle medesime prestazioni sportive;

• Massimo MORETTI, all’epoca dei fatti direttore generale della F.C. INTERNAZIONALE
per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S., per aver sottoscritto alcuni contratti di cessioni dei diritti alle prestazioni sportive di alcuni calciatori, con abnorme e strumentale valutazione delle medesime prestazioni sportive;

• Rinaldo GHELFI, già amministratore delegato e poi vice presidente della F.C. INTERNAZIONALE
per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S e le disposizioni di cui all’art. 7, comma 1, del C.G.S. previgente, trasfuso nell’art. 8, comma 1, del vigente C.G.S., per aver posto in essere la condotta consistita nella contabilizzazione nel bilancio chiuso al 30 giugno 2003 delle plusvalenze (fittizie) derivanti dalla stipula dei contratti di cessione con corrispettivi di gran lunga superiori a quelli realmente attribuibili, nonché le condotte consistenti nella mancata svalutazione nel bilancio chiuso al 30 giugno 2004 e nella situazione patrimoniale al 31 marzo 2005, delle poste attive già contabilizzate al 30 giugno 2003
tutte condotte connesse fra di loro e con quelle di cui ai punti 5, 6 e 8 della parte dispositiva, e tutte finalizzate a far apparire perdite inferiori a quelle realmente esistenti.

• Mauro GAMBARO, all’epoca dei fatti amministratore delegato della F.C. INTERNAZIONALE
per rispondere della violazione dei principi di lealtà, probità e correttezza sanciti dall’art. 1, comma 1, del C.G.S e le disposizioni di cui all’art. 7, comma 1, del C.G.S. previgente, trasfuso nell’art. 8, comma 1, del vigente C.G.S., per aver posto in essere le condotte consistite nella mancata svalutazione nella situazione patrimoniale al 31 marzo 2005, delle poste attive già contabilizzate al 30 giugno 2003, tutte condotte connesse fra di loro e finalizzate a far apparire perdite inferiori a quelle realmente esistenti;

• la società F.C. INTERNAZIONALE
per responsabilità diretta, ai sensi dell’art. 2, comma 4, del previgente C.G.S., trasfuso nell’art. 4, comma 1, del vigente C.G.S., con riferimento alle condotte contestate ai suoi Dirigenti e legali Rappresentanti;
ha disposto lo stralcio delle posizioni riguardanti le società PARMA F.C. S.P.A, U.C. SAMPDORIA S.P.A., A.C. CHIEVO VERONA S.R.L. per l’acquisizione di ulteriore documentazione riservandosi all’esito i conseguenti provvedimenti.


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Art. 7
Violazioni in materia gestionale ed economica

1. La mancata produzione, l’alterazione o la falsificazione, anche parziale, dei documenti richiesti dagli Organi di giustizia sportiva e dalla CO.VI.SO.C., ovvero il fornire mendace, reticente o parziale risposta ai quesiti posti dagli stessi Organi, costituisce illecito.

2. La società che commette i fatti di cui al comma 1 è punibile con la sanzione dell’ammenda con diffida, salva la più grave sanzione che possa essere irrogata per i fatti previsti dal presente articolo.

3. La società che, mediante falsificazione dei propri documenti contabili o amministrativi, tenta di ottenere od ottenga l'iscrizione ad un campionato a cui non avrebbe potuto essere ammessa sulla base delle disposizioni federali vigenti al momento del fatto, è punita con una delle sanzioni previste dall’art. 13, lettere f), g), h) e i).

Art. 13
Sanzioni a carico delle società

1. Le società che si rendono responsabili della violazione dello Statuto, delle norme federali e di ogni altra disposizione loro applicabile sono punibili con una o più delle seguenti sanzioni, commisurate alla natura e alla gravità dei fatti commessi:

a) ammonizione;

b) ammenda;

c) ammenda con diffida;

d) obbligo di disputare una o più gare a porte chiuse;

e) squalifica del campo per una o più giornate di gara o a tempo determinato, fino a due anni;

f) penalizzazione di uno o più punti in classifica; la penalizzazione sul punteggio, che si appalesi inefficace nella stagione sportiva in corso, può essere fatta scontare, in tutto o in parte, nella stagione sportiva seguente;

g) retrocessione all'ultimo posto in classifica del campionato di competenza o di qualsiasi altra competizione agonistica obbligatoria;

h) esclusione dal campionato di competenza o da qualsiasi altra competizione agonistica obbligatoria, con assegnazione da parte del Consiglio Federale ad uno dei campionati di categoria inferiore;

i) non assegnazione o revoca dell'assegnazione del titolo di campione d'Italia o di vincente del campionato, del girone di competenza o di competizione ufficiale;
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Serie A is becoming a joke with time passing...Here are some recent comments that indicate how Italy is shooting itself in the foot:

Collina: "I said nothing to Tagliavento. The mistake was glaring and he was sorry about it ... It was hard to call, but according to the rules it was not a penalty."

Cesare Gussoni, the president of the Association of referees (AIA): "someone could ask that the game be repeated if a referee admits a mistake."

Zambrotta: "In Spain there are not that many discussions. (In Italy) we go on and on with chatter."

Luca Toni: "If you watch the Bundesliga, you'll understand. Bayern has had a single spot kick awarded. But (in Germany) there are less polemics. You don't spend the week watching slow motions. It's a different culture."
 

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