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    If DP would have been tripped from behind, the ref should have shown the red card...
    But he didnt see that, he saw the contact on DP and not on the ball,
    if the defender tacles with one leg and hits the ball first, the attacker is supposed to avoid him and do not dive,
    the penalty isnt valid both ways...
    No because he wasn't the last man back.

    Jack accept that you are wrong and get over it. No panel has agreed with you yet and I've watched at least 4 in different languages. The goal was offside.
     
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    I love how everyone is an expert. When numerous camera angles show that something is black stop arguing white.

    It was a penalty as it was a trip from behind.

    It was offside as Spinesi had surpassed Molinaro when the ball was passed.

    How the hell is it still a debate when there is video evidence confirming all that?
     

    Salvo

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    I love how everyone is an expert. When numerous camera angles show that something is black stop arguing white.

    It was a penalty as it was a trip from behind.

    It was offside as Spinesi had surpassed Molinaro when the ball was passed.

    How the hell is it still a debate when there is video evidence confirming all that?
    who knows.
     

    Seven

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    If DP would have been tripped from behind, the ref should have shown the red card...
    But he didnt see that, he saw the contact on DP and not on the ball,
    if the defender tacles with one leg and hits the ball first, the attacker is supposed to avoid him and do not dive,
    the penalty isnt valid both ways...
    There were at least three defenders in front of Ale at that point. There's simply no way that could ever have been a red. It was a pretty clear penalty to say the least. A foolish mistake from the defender's point of view, but a foul nonetheless.
     

    Seven

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    No because he wasn't the last man back.

    Jack accept that you are wrong and get over it. No panel has agreed with you yet and I've watched at least 4 in different languages. The goal was offside.
    The goal was offside and it was a penalty. I don't care about those Catania wankers. If anyone was screwed, it was us.
     

    Quetzalcoatl

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    Aug 22, 2007
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    the catania goal was offside, chiellini's penalty shout was undeserving of a penalty and whether DP was fouled for the penalty is unclear. i haven't watched the replays yet, but i think it was just human error this time and not a matter of anything suspicious.
     

    Cronios

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    There were at least three defenders in front of Ale at that point. There's simply no way that could ever have been a red. It was a pretty clear penalty to say the least. A foolish mistake from the defender's point of view, but a foul nonetheless.
    The tackle from behind is considered anti-sportmanship behavior and it is punished with a red card at some occasions even if the attacker has no firing solution,esp when he is tripled,
    i agree with the ref, that at this particular moment DP wasnt in a clear position to shoot and the tackle wasnt a fierce one, at any case, it should have been a yellow card, at least, though...
    Thats NOT what the ref saw, or even thought that he saw!

    And the most important thing is:
    IF the defender had a contact with DP, BEFORE he touched the ball, then, the ref should have awarded the penalty and no cards
    and this is exactly what he thought it happened, thats why he gave the penalty and no cards.
    He dint punished the tripple or a fierce tackle, he punished the delicate tackle out of sync, but he was wrong...the tackle was synced.
    I insist that the defender touched the ball before he touched DP,
    if this is the case it wasnt a foul and it wasnt a penalty either...
     

    Cronios

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    i haven't watched the replays yet, but i think it was just human error this time and not a matter of anything suspicious.
    I agree, we have seen terrible mistakes against Juve, real mistakes that have determined the result, mistakes so obvious that live little space to speculations,
    the game versus Catania wasnt the case, all the difficult moments are really debatable, even with the modern tech, reverse angle and slow mo cameras.
    I wish that these were the worst mistakes Juve had to endure, but we should not see ghosts and witches, at this particular game the refs gave us the opportunity to win,
    our performance was the only reason we didnt.
    Juve has been treated much much more worse than this game, even at the Moggi era.
    This ref tried to control the game and to avoid all unnecessary attention to his side,
    he booked 3 of the Catania players in the first half in an attempt to stop the doing these fierce fouls but he wasnt hurry to give a red card or penalty, because this is how a ref determines the final result. He was afraid to do that, because he knows what the pressure from the press feels like,
    at the end he gave debatable a penalty to DP. If he had any ill intentions against us, he wouldnt do that!
    We need to remain objective, because we will lose all our remaining credibility...
     
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    No, sorry but no. I haven't seen a single replay that shows contact with the ball before the contact with the leg. It was a clumsy tackle and if you want to say that it was close that is one thing but to say that it was wrong is another.

    It was a valid penalty. What wasn't valid was the Catania goal. I agree Juve have had it worse than yesterday but that doesn't mean that yesterday Juve didn't wrongfully leave points on the field.
     

    Mark

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    what about DP being called offside(not even close) going one on one with the keeper that takes him down and would have resulted in a pk and red for the keeper?
     

    Bjerknes

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    Look, just watch the footage again. Those three decisive calls were even hard to judge with freaking replays. The first two, namely the Spinesi goal and the first Del Piero trip, were very hard to judge, and both players seemingly had half of their bodies on and offsides if you look at the grass lines.

    The Del Piero penalty looked like a penalty but if you watch closely the defender, I think it was Biagianti, slightly touched the ball. The trip happened AFTER he touched the ball. Therefore not a penalty.

    Either way, it was tough to call, but there is no conspiracy here. Case closed.

    PS - Spinesi's goal was Molinaro's fault for even being there so close to Spinesi and not goal-side.
     

    Bjerknes

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    that was the lineman's fault.
    No, it was Molinaro's fault. The whole fuckin' line pushed up as they were supposed to do, but of course Molinaro had to be there on Spinesi to make it too close to call even while watching replays. If Molinaro actually knew what he was doing out there, Spinesi would have been five yards offside. We can't keep blaming the referee for our troubles. If I saw somebody do that in a practice, I'd yell until his ear bleeds to either pull up or get goal-side, not try to do both.
     

    Lion

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    I was replying to Mark's post, Andy.

    sucks you typed all that as a reply to me :p

    edit: I do agree with you though. Molinaro should have been another foot forward.
     

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