Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (33 Viewers)
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so what if Moggi told Secco not to sell Nocerino? Thank God he did if it's true.
The media now are trying to start a new attack on Juve since were close to the top right now. Moggi can talk to whoever he wants.
There implying that he might be doing Juve's mercato. Yeah right you f*ckin' assholes. Moggi wouldn't have sold Zlatan and Vieira to In*ter and wouldn't have bought some of the players we have right now.
I expect our fake Juventini management to fire Secco just for that(wouldn't be a bad thing though) and hire someone new. I'm afraid they'll hire the janitor though.
If that's the only thing they've got then we'll have our scudetti back and some $$$ unless a new Guido Rossi comes in and takes away some points this season to make us finish 5th.
The media now are trying to start a new attack on Juve since were close to the top right now. Moggi can talk to whoever he wants.
There implying that he might be doing Juve's mercato. Yeah right you f*ckin' assholes. Moggi wouldn't have sold Zlatan and Vieira to In*ter and wouldn't have bought some of the players we have right now.
I expect our fake Juventini management to fire Secco just for that(wouldn't be a bad thing though) and hire someone new. I'm afraid they'll hire the janitor though.
If that's the only thing they've got then we'll have our scudetti back and some $$$ unless a new Guido Rossi comes in and takes away some points this season to make us finish 5th.
so what if Moggi told Secco not to sell Nocerino? Thank God he did if it's true.
The media now are trying to start a new attack on Juve since were close to the top right now. Moggi can talk to whoever he wants.
There implying that he might be doing Juve's mercato. Yeah right you f*ckin' assholes. Moggi wouldn't have sold Zlatan and Vieira to In*ter and wouldn't have bought some of the players we have right now.
I expect our fake Juventini management to fire Secco just for that(wouldn't be a bad thing though) and hire someone new. I'm afraid they'll hire the janitor though.
If that's the only thing they've got then we'll have our scudetti back and some $$$ unless a new Guido Rossi comes in and takes away some points this season to make us finish 5th.
The media now are trying to start a new attack on Juve since were close to the top right now. Moggi can talk to whoever he wants.
There implying that he might be doing Juve's mercato. Yeah right you f*ckin' assholes. Moggi wouldn't have sold Zlatan and Vieira to In*ter and wouldn't have bought some of the players we have right now.
I expect our fake Juventini management to fire Secco just for that(wouldn't be a bad thing though) and hire someone new. I'm afraid they'll hire the janitor though.
If that's the only thing they've got then we'll have our scudetti back and some $$$ unless a new Guido Rossi comes in and takes away some points this season to make us finish 5th.
so what if Moggi told Secco not to sell Nocerino? Thank God he did if it's true.
The media now are trying to start a new attack on Juve since were close to the top right now. Moggi can talk to whoever he wants.
There implying that he might be doing Juve's mercato. Yeah right you f*ckin' assholes. Moggi wouldn't have sold Zlatan and Vieira to In*ter and wouldn't have bought some of the players we have right now.
I expect our fake Juventini management to fire Secco just for that(wouldn't be a bad thing though) and hire someone new. I'm afraid they'll hire the janitor though.
If that's the only thing they've got then we'll have our scudetti back and some $$$ unless a new Guido Rossi comes in and takes away some points this season to make us finish 5th.
The media now are trying to start a new attack on Juve since were close to the top right now. Moggi can talk to whoever he wants.
There implying that he might be doing Juve's mercato. Yeah right you f*ckin' assholes. Moggi wouldn't have sold Zlatan and Vieira to In*ter and wouldn't have bought some of the players we have right now.
I expect our fake Juventini management to fire Secco just for that(wouldn't be a bad thing though) and hire someone new. I'm afraid they'll hire the janitor though.
If that's the only thing they've got then we'll have our scudetti back and some $$$ unless a new Guido Rossi comes in and takes away some points this season to make us finish 5th.
But fucking hell this is awful. I've lost a lot faith in a lot of parts of top people in Italian football.
Good job in finding the article. I feel for non Italian speakers though as these translations are rather confusing. Words like “Dry” appeared in reference to “Secco” because the word “Dry” is actually “Secco” in proper Italian but a translator has no way of knowing that Secco is a person. It’s one of many confusing things in the article.
In any case I read it and will try to summarize its message.
First of all Giuseppe Gazzoni Frascara is the frustrated former manager of Bologna who lost millions out of his own stupidity. Since running the team into the ground and Serie B he has blamed everyone in his administration and beyond and has threatened legal action against pretty much everyone. He has been ridiculed and all but thrown out of court. He claims the big clubs screwed him when auditors in fact revealed that fraudulent accounting led to Bologna’s failure.
Capobianco is also mentioned but even he has been discredited. He is a Giraudo enemy who claimed to have inside info on Juve’s shady dealings but has since done nothing to support his accusation. He was invited to speak on TV and in court and has done neither. Giraudo fired him years ago and he has held a grudge against him and Juve for years.
There is a claim that Alessandro Moggi is still one of Italy’s prominent agents when GEA is actually disbanded. There are other claims in the article that are laughable as well. The notion that Giraudo is illegitimately working abroad is a lie. He is very close to a position in England but there is nothing wrong with that since he was suspended for 5 years by the FIGC and not the English FA.
It says that Moggi is illegitimately meeting with his former judges (Ruperto and Serio) when in truth, Moggi is appealing his verdicts and has to meet with them in order to follow due process. It claims Moggi is still running Juve’s market when all it lists as proof is Secco’s admission that the two speak. Secco said on TV (in a video I have) that he is still friends with Luciano and that the two speak from time to time (Moggi always got along with Secco but less so with men like Blanc). Secco claimed that he values Moggi’s opinion and often as he has decades of experience. Bottom line is that until they catch Moggi on the phone with other directors buying and selling players for Juve…they have nothing at all. It is not against the law to express opinions and make suggestions. So far they have nothing else.
Seven hit the nail on the head. This is an attempt to distract. With the recent news that Calciopoli is going to civil courts and that the truth behind the trial may now be investigated, the culprits of the trial are running scared and trying to divert public attention and again influence public opinion. I stated in a previous page that we should expect this to continue as the only thing they have left is to continue painting an ugly picture of Moggi to justify Calciopoli. Remember public outcry was a major stimulant in the sentence…now that’s gone and they are trying to get it back.
In any case I read it and will try to summarize its message.
First of all Giuseppe Gazzoni Frascara is the frustrated former manager of Bologna who lost millions out of his own stupidity. Since running the team into the ground and Serie B he has blamed everyone in his administration and beyond and has threatened legal action against pretty much everyone. He has been ridiculed and all but thrown out of court. He claims the big clubs screwed him when auditors in fact revealed that fraudulent accounting led to Bologna’s failure.
Capobianco is also mentioned but even he has been discredited. He is a Giraudo enemy who claimed to have inside info on Juve’s shady dealings but has since done nothing to support his accusation. He was invited to speak on TV and in court and has done neither. Giraudo fired him years ago and he has held a grudge against him and Juve for years.
There is a claim that Alessandro Moggi is still one of Italy’s prominent agents when GEA is actually disbanded. There are other claims in the article that are laughable as well. The notion that Giraudo is illegitimately working abroad is a lie. He is very close to a position in England but there is nothing wrong with that since he was suspended for 5 years by the FIGC and not the English FA.
It says that Moggi is illegitimately meeting with his former judges (Ruperto and Serio) when in truth, Moggi is appealing his verdicts and has to meet with them in order to follow due process. It claims Moggi is still running Juve’s market when all it lists as proof is Secco’s admission that the two speak. Secco said on TV (in a video I have) that he is still friends with Luciano and that the two speak from time to time (Moggi always got along with Secco but less so with men like Blanc). Secco claimed that he values Moggi’s opinion and often as he has decades of experience. Bottom line is that until they catch Moggi on the phone with other directors buying and selling players for Juve…they have nothing at all. It is not against the law to express opinions and make suggestions. So far they have nothing else.
Seven hit the nail on the head. This is an attempt to distract. With the recent news that Calciopoli is going to civil courts and that the truth behind the trial may now be investigated, the culprits of the trial are running scared and trying to divert public attention and again influence public opinion. I stated in a previous page that we should expect this to continue as the only thing they have left is to continue painting an ugly picture of Moggi to justify Calciopoli. Remember public outcry was a major stimulant in the sentence…now that’s gone and they are trying to get it back.
I'm not much into the whole Farsopoli thing and I most certainly haven't always agreed with you. But even the most sceptical Juventus fan has to accept that this is odd to say the least.
The problem in Italy obviously is the question how independent the media really are. Whilst I'm not making any wild claims, it is clear for all to see that what is happening now is a mechanism which has been used before. At this point in time, objective media wouldn't focus on Moggi, but on Moratti.
W finally find common ground. This sort of media attention is indicative of the lengths certain people will go to bury the skeletons in their own closet as far back as possible.
Moggi is out yet he is still targeted and well timed too...just as the shit starts to hit the fan at Telecom and the Civil Courts begin asking questions.
You have to admit that even as a skeptic...certain things are starting to look a little clearer.
Moggi is out yet he is still targeted and well timed too...just as the shit starts to hit the fan at Telecom and the Civil Courts begin asking questions.
You have to admit that even as a skeptic...certain things are starting to look a little clearer.
I'll be blunt. They (Inter-Telecom, etc.) are fucked.
If this is what they are going to hit back with when the courts run into all that has been found I think our enemies will be lucky to walk out of the courtroom with their pricks in their hands.
It's one thing when the judge is on your side but when the judges are impartial you better have your facts straight. They've got shit and are scrambling.
If this is what they are going to hit back with when the courts run into all that has been found I think our enemies will be lucky to walk out of the courtroom with their pricks in their hands.
It's one thing when the judge is on your side but when the judges are impartial you better have your facts straight. They've got shit and are scrambling.
Gsol, i appreciate your efforts, thank you for your work,
but i have to advise you not to be so optimistic, "they" have shown their power,
they are in a position to control a new trial if its necessary.
Right now, they probably just buying some time and secure their image escapes unharmed, by the time we will live to see a serious trial verdict...
I m sure Inter will find many allies in their attempt to "make this go away",
Italy has been hurt enough from the scandal and some clubs were punished too soft, or they werent punished at all,
why would anyone risk a heavier punishment?
Their allies united will pull the right strings and make this go away...one way or the other...
but i have to advise you not to be so optimistic, "they" have shown their power,
they are in a position to control a new trial if its necessary.
Right now, they probably just buying some time and secure their image escapes unharmed, by the time we will live to see a serious trial verdict...
I m sure Inter will find many allies in their attempt to "make this go away",
Italy has been hurt enough from the scandal and some clubs were punished too soft, or they werent punished at all,
why would anyone risk a heavier punishment?
Their allies united will pull the right strings and make this go away...one way or the other...
I hear you, but you need to understand the motivation behind the Italian Civil Trial. In my opinion they are doing it to save face knowing that the European Court of Commerce (where Inter and Telecom have no influence) will force UEFA's hand. It will be humiliating to the Italian judicial system if a foreign body is forced to come in and clean up Italy's mess. It will show that the Italian system is rotten and they will lose credibility in both the civil and sports justice departments. I am optimistic because we have Europe behind us.
il presidente del milan e leader di Forza Italia torna sul "calcio malato"
BERLUSCONI, "calciopoli? UNA MONTATURA"
(AGI/ITALPRESS) - Milano, 17 dic. - "E' stata una grande montatura. Non c'e' calciopoli che tenga. Ci sono stati club che hanno avuto influenza e l'hanno fatta valere, abbiamo perso un po' di scudetti, ma ormai e' acqua passata" Silvio Berlusconi ha risposto cosi' ad una domanda sulle nuove indagini di questi giorni su calciopoli, al suo arrivo all'aeroporto per accogliere il Milan campione del mondo per club. Il numero uno rossonero, poi, intervenendo telefonicamente al "Processo di Biscardi", ha aggiunto. "Non e' stato un caso cosi' generalizzato come si e' stati portati a credere. Da allora, con il tempo, e' venuta fuori la realta' e cioe' che c'era qualcuno che aveva un po' di influenza ed ha provato a spenderla a favore del proprio club. Ma mai, mai c'e' stato ricorso alla corruzione, che non c'e' mai stata". Sulla battaglia per far rientrare l'anno passato il Milan in Europa, Berlusconi, ha spiegato: "Eravamo convinti che fosse un'enorme ingiustizia anche perche' eravamo convinti della nostra correttezza. Noi abbiamo preparato le memorie difensive nelle lunghissime riunioni al quale partecipavamo tutti insieme ai nostri legali, riuscendo a sviluppare e a far comprendere le nostre motivazioni".