Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (49 Viewers)
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I think that Denco lives in a "pink" world that football teams are about the pure game and nothing more. The papers are objective and write "naked truth.
After the trial Mogi said that the next period is about the dominance of Milan teams, and that is what happened.
I really believe the facts stated by gsol and all that is very logical.
We were not the only bad ones.
I only wonder how this could happen to our triade. I was sure that they had power to make counter-measures, or to protect the club but I guess, something else was "in the game too".
And it is always that to one event , people have different views. To some previous state by Denco that our captain was unfairly benched by Capello just to make draws and poor results, here by ancient loyal Juve fans, was thought as one of the greatest moves of Capello, to bring a player back to a master level, which happened, DP was playing great again. But, that is our (some group od 6 Juventini regular) opinion.
Anyone else can have different opinion.
Thanx Gsol for the thorough inside view of the farsopoli
After the trial Mogi said that the next period is about the dominance of Milan teams, and that is what happened.
I really believe the facts stated by gsol and all that is very logical.
We were not the only bad ones.
I only wonder how this could happen to our triade. I was sure that they had power to make counter-measures, or to protect the club but I guess, something else was "in the game too".
And it is always that to one event , people have different views. To some previous state by Denco that our captain was unfairly benched by Capello just to make draws and poor results, here by ancient loyal Juve fans, was thought as one of the greatest moves of Capello, to bring a player back to a master level, which happened, DP was playing great again. But, that is our (some group od 6 Juventini regular) opinion.
Anyone else can have different opinion.
Thanx Gsol for the thorough inside view of the farsopoli
Better read what denco has to say before you post smth about his opinion. :faq1:
Mine opinion is, that Moggi and the rest of our directors did some things wrong, but it cant be called cheating or match fixing, they just offended some laws like etiquette about relationships between club directors and refferees. Taking our two scudettos were much too hard, as every club on Serie A had some little dirty things. I dont like to think that Serie A was corrupted as hell, its image was created because of italian mentality, because newspapers was talking about referees from week to week. About situation now - i dont know what to think. I just feel it unfair the way we were threated and watching how badly referees is doing from week to week i want some blood - from collina, from inter, who is the winner of this situation, hell, even Lega Calcio deserves some slaps abot this nonsense. But still - its not like in Latvia, were there are reals proofs about federation linkage with totalizators. I stopped watching our highest league because of these damn betting sites and i dont want to stop watching serie a, this is why i still believe in italian football.
Mine opinion is, that Moggi and the rest of our directors did some things wrong, but it cant be called cheating or match fixing, they just offended some laws like etiquette about relationships between club directors and refferees. Taking our two scudettos were much too hard, as every club on Serie A had some little dirty things. I dont like to think that Serie A was corrupted as hell, its image was created because of italian mentality, because newspapers was talking about referees from week to week. About situation now - i dont know what to think. I just feel it unfair the way we were threated and watching how badly referees is doing from week to week i want some blood - from collina, from inter, who is the winner of this situation, hell, even Lega Calcio deserves some slaps abot this nonsense. But still - its not like in Latvia, were there are reals proofs about federation linkage with totalizators. I stopped watching our highest league because of these damn betting sites and i dont want to stop watching serie a, this is why i still believe in italian football.
Speaking of bribery,
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23188&page=11 comment 211
Classy guy and ethical mod too.
Kudos buddy,
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23188&page=11 comment 211
Classy guy and ethical mod too.
Kudos buddy,
The RCS media group also has John Elkan, Franzo Grande Stevens and even Diego Della Valle on its board of directors. Im confused now.
http://www.rcsmediagroup.it/wps/portal/mg/governance/boardandcommitees?language=en
http://www.rcsmediagroup.it/wps/portal/mg/governance/boardandcommitees?language=en
If we take the ILLEGAL phone taps as evidence and Juve's relegation to serie b was just, then Milan should've been relegated to Serie C2.
if we take the ILLEGAL phone taps as evidence and the punishment of match fixing is relegation Milan would have been in Serie B and Juve were to stay in serie A.
If we take the phone taps being ILLEGAL and not as evidence then there is no trial at all. All teams stay in Serie A Juve to keep both titles fair and square.
I am not here to discuss if Juve were innocenet or not. I am here to discuss IF THEY WERE GIVEN A FAIR TRIAL OR NOT. Clearly they weren't. I am not a law expert but there are basic things I know, and this trial was unjust.
Looking at the evidence brought up in the trial and the outcome, I personally think (you can disagree if you want) that it was clear as glass that the whole point of such a trial is to bring Juve down. Milan and other teams getting some slaps on the hand as punishment were just collateral damages. In addition, this whole trial made Inter absolutely STRONG, plus it damaged almost all Serie A teams in a way that crippled them from being competitive.
Summer 2006, Inter were kinda the only team capable of buying players in the mercato due to the fact that other teams were stuck in the Calcioploli. They got a good number of players at a very cheap budget.
They got money for a trophy which they did not win. They got money from sponsers they do not deserve (since Juve got relegated)..
And about cheating and match fixing, IF ILLEGAL PHONE TAP TRASCRIPTS which might have been manipulated couldn't find evidence that Juve match fixed, personally I can go sleep at night knowing that my team did not cheat.
if we take the ILLEGAL phone taps as evidence and the punishment of match fixing is relegation Milan would have been in Serie B and Juve were to stay in serie A.
If we take the phone taps being ILLEGAL and not as evidence then there is no trial at all. All teams stay in Serie A Juve to keep both titles fair and square.
I am not here to discuss if Juve were innocenet or not. I am here to discuss IF THEY WERE GIVEN A FAIR TRIAL OR NOT. Clearly they weren't. I am not a law expert but there are basic things I know, and this trial was unjust.
Looking at the evidence brought up in the trial and the outcome, I personally think (you can disagree if you want) that it was clear as glass that the whole point of such a trial is to bring Juve down. Milan and other teams getting some slaps on the hand as punishment were just collateral damages. In addition, this whole trial made Inter absolutely STRONG, plus it damaged almost all Serie A teams in a way that crippled them from being competitive.
Summer 2006, Inter were kinda the only team capable of buying players in the mercato due to the fact that other teams were stuck in the Calcioploli. They got a good number of players at a very cheap budget.
They got money for a trophy which they did not win. They got money from sponsers they do not deserve (since Juve got relegated)..
And about cheating and match fixing, IF ILLEGAL PHONE TAP TRASCRIPTS which might have been manipulated couldn't find evidence that Juve match fixed, personally I can go sleep at night knowing that my team did not cheat.
