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    5- Nothing, what so ever, was put on Inter. Not even a phone conversasion that had "inter" as a word in it. Which only means (if true) that Inter officials do not use cell phones.

    Actually the President Facchetti was found on the phone with referee designer Pairetto and no investigation followed. I have video interviews of the other referee designer Bergamo and referee De Santis saying that they were shockd that no more Inter conversations came out because they were chronic callers. Then we find out that Telecom's security is arrested for evidence tampering...

    Just for the record though Juve weren't blamed for Lecce-Parma. It's why De Santis got the boot though.
     

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    Milan Vs Udinese..

    Udinese wanted the match to end in draw to get into europe
    Milan wanted Jancholoviski who was on his way to Juve.

    Meani and an udinese official speak on the phone with clear intentions to end the match in a draw.
    The match ends 1-1 or 0-0 (I cannot remember).
    Meani and the udinese official talk again on the phone and laugh on how they were successful in doing so.
    The week after Janckolovski signs for Milan.
    Is that not the game that Milan got deducted points for and was it not their contention that Meani is not part of their core members and that was why they did not get relegated?

    About this conversation did you get to listen to it or was it a transcript? And also about the phone convo if its illegal as you say to use it against Juventus then evidently it should be illegal to use it against Milan as well.

    I am only going by what you have said yourself.

    If no evidence was used according to you guys why was galliani suspended? Why were lazio and Fiorentina along with Regianna deducted points?

    Marcel Desailly said it on BBc Tv that Juventus have been cheating for years and all the players knew it.

    There is not a doubt in my mind that italian football is dirty so I do not understand why you guys are acting like everything was just fabricated against us
     
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    "Judge Mario Sello put his signature on something he stated afterwards is illegal? He actually signed it knowing fully well that what he is signing is illegal and came out in public to admit that?"

    Yes

    "That don't sound strange to ya?"

    Jesus Christ are you fucking new here? What do you think I've been saying for 95 pages. It was a SHAM! Even the judges admitted afterwards that Juve didn't dserve relegation. They did what they were told!
     
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    Denco,


    ZAF is entirely right about that Milan game. They organized a draw on the last day and in return Jankulovski would be sold at a reduced rate. Notice ZAF said it was DROPPED from the trial and therefore the only possible fixed game that appears in the sentence is conveniently Lecce-Parma.

    The trial docs are from teh FIGC website, teh repubblica is impartial, corporate websites that put names and last names aren't my sources they are just sources.

    Moggi is suing and Juventus wouldn't sue their current sponsor now would they?
     
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    What baffles me is that after all the information available here Denco continues to dance and pivot and duck and hide from the obvious point that we were screwed by a group of people who had a common interest. Yet he is adament that we were match fixing because Juve had a dip in form and recovered in time to win their 29th title.

    I forgot how much fun it was reading your shit.
     

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    That Udinese-Milan match was very fishy but there are still some doubts if it was fixed or not.

    This is the situation before the last round :
    1.FC Juventus 83
    2.Milan AC 78
    3.FC Internazionale 72
    4.Udinese Calcio 61
    5.UC Sampdoria 60

    In the last round Udinese played against Milan and they needed a win to secure the CL spot. But at the same time Sampdoria also had chances to win the 4th place if they've beaten Bologna, who were fighting against relegation, and if Udinese didn't win.

    In the last round, Udinese-Milan ended 1:1 and there were still 2 minutes and 18 seconds to be played in Bologna-Sampdoria, while the result was 0:0.
    What if Sampdoria scored the winning goal ?

    That's why i find it strange when people say Udinese needed a draw and they fixed it. Because if Sampdoria won the last match with Bologna (and they didn't, they played 0:0) Udinese would have missed out on CL with the 1:1 draw with Milan.

    But the wiretaps said another thing and it was very fishy indeed because it seemed like the match was really fixed. Jankulovski joining Milan for unknown fee only makes it more suspicious.

    P.S : And this wasn't the match where Jankulovski scored an owngoal. He scored owngoal in the autumn part of the championship, at San Siro, where Milan won 3:1
     

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    That Udinese-Milan match was very fishy but there are still some doubts if it was fixed or not.

    This is the situation before the last round :
    1.FC Juventus 83
    2.Milan AC 78
    3.FC Internazionale 72
    4.Udinese Calcio 61
    5.UC Sampdoria 60

    In the last round Udinese played against Milan and they needed a win to secure the CL spot. But at the same time Sampdoria also had chances to win the 4th place if they've beaten Bologna, who were fighting against relegation, and if Udinese didn't win.

    In the last round, Udinese-Milan ended 1:1 and there were still 2 minutes and 18 seconds to be played in Bologna-Sampdoria, while the result was 0:0.
    What if Sampdoria scored the winning goal ?

    That's why i find it strange when people say Udinese needed a draw and they fixed it. Because if Sampdoria won the last match with Bologna (and they didn't, they played 0:0) Udinese would have missed out on CL with the 1:1 draw with Milan.

    But the wiretaps said another thing and it was very fishy indeed because it seemed like the match was really fixed. Jankulovski joining Milan for unknown fee only makes it more suspicious.

    P.S : And this wasn't the match where Jankulovski scored an owngoal. He scored owngoal in the autumn part of the championship, at San Siro, where Milan won 3:1
    Good analysis :tup:

    I knew he scored an own goal against Milan in his final season at Udine

    he claims he will after his appeal is over in the Civil Court.
    Ok, do you know what he is asking for as compensation?
     
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    Is that not the game that Milan got deducted points for and was it not their contention that Meani is not part of their core members and that was why they did not get relegated?

    About this conversation did you get to listen to it or was it a transcript? And also about the phone convo if its illegal as you say to use it against Juventus then evidently it should be illegal to use it against Milan as well.
    You are missing the whole point. They wanted match fixing and found it but because it was Milan they took it out of the trial. “Did they have the call or the transcript?” Wow you are a hypocrite. Now to convict someone else they need the call but to convict Moggi the transcript was just fine.
     
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    does moggi plan to return to football when his ban is over?
    I hope not.

    If he would it would likely not be for Juve since it's being run by his enemies (Elkan-Montemerda) now. I don't want him bringing all of his success to another club.
     

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    What baffles me is that after all the information available here Denco continues to dance and pivot and duck and hide from the obvious point that we were screwed by a group of people who had a common interest. Yet he is adament that we were match fixing because Juve had a dip in form and recovered in time to win their 29th title.

    I forgot how much fun it was reading your shit.
    Has it not occured to you yet that I do not regard you as an oracle? What you consider fact I consider opinion, you can say it a million times but it still comes accross as opinion.

    And I preefer getting information from neutral sources thank you very much.

    And I am not adamnt of match fixing because of dip in form I was talking to Andy as he was talking about things being fishy.

    I am glad for Moggi that he is suing gazetta for libel as if its only right if he was defamed.

    @Michael, yep Desailly was on tv stating that.

    Players, managers, presidents have been saying for years that we have been cheating so I dont know what the big hoopla is as regards to that.

    Are Inter clean? no, are milan clean? no but somehow Juventus are clean and they were just set up because of their success notwithstanding the fact the frontman at the time did not have a squeaky clean image
     

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    I meant that if he was going to give an interview to a channel, he is obviously going to say that Milan didn't win cause we cheated, and not cause we are/were/will be superior to them.

    Juve aren't clean fine, i can admit that, but find one team in the whole world that has always been clean. My god there is bribing in the Maltese 3rd division, and i know this for a fact, let alone when teams can actually win money
     
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    "Has it not occured to you yet that I do not regard you as an oracle? What you consider fact I consider opinion, you can say it a million times but it still comes accross as opinion."

    That's why you lost here a long time ago. Find a dictionary and study the difference.

    "And I preefer getting information from neutral sources thank you very much."

    Well fuck you very much, go get your neutral info just like I did. Were the taps and docs bias?


    "@Michael, yep Desailly was on tv stating that."

    Ciro was on TV too. He said to show us the proof that we cheated. We are all still waiting.

    Juve didn't deserve relegation yet it almost seems like it pleased you
     

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    You are missing the whole point. They wanted match fixing and found it but because it was Milan they took it out of the trial. “Did they have the call or the transcript?” Wow you are a hypocrite. Now to convict someone else they need the call but to convict Moggi the transcript was just fine.
    What are you talking about now?

    I asked him zaf3000 if he listened to the phonecalls as he said they did not use phone calls but transcripts.

    Again you keep talking like I give a shit about the trial or I need legal terms to be convinced that Moggi was not clean.

    The trial for all I care was a sham. Its purpose was to bring down an evil empire in this case Moggi's and they used any means necessary.

    What amuses me is how you guys just shoot yourselves in the foot.

    Yeah yeah Milan cheated, yeah yeah it is because berlusconi is all powerful thats why milan got away with it, seriously who cares?

    The only way i would have given a shit is if i for 1 second thought we were innocent but I dont and whatever Milan, Inter, Sampdoria, udinese and whoever got up to is no concern of mine

    Everybody cheated so stop telling me that we did not and were just set up.

    Newspapers embellish, they twist your words to suit their purposes, they try to misinterpret situations, but to totally fabricate and make up stuff like you are trying to convince me that gazetta did, its not on at all.

    So what happened to all the other papers in the country, the respectable ones I mean, they see no reason to investigate gazetta?

    Or does gazetta also own every media outlet in the country as well?
     

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    "Has it not occured to you yet that I do not regard you as an oracle? What you consider fact I consider opinion, you can say it a million times but it still comes accross as opinion."

    That's why you lost here a long time ago. Find a dictionary and study the difference.

    "And I preefer getting information from neutral sources thank you very much."

    Well fuck you very much, go get your neutral info just like I did. Were the taps and docs bias?

    "@Michael, yep Desailly was on tv stating that."

    Ciro was on TV too. He said to show us the proof that we cheated. We are all still waiting.

    Juve didn't deserve relegation yet it almost seems like it pleased you
    Do you always have to be an idiot? You really need toilet paper to clean your mouth

    Can you not endure the fact that you mean nothing at all to me. I am totally indifferent towards ya. Stop getting all emotional and quit acting like a big ugly girls blouse.



    Quit talking about dictionaries as you dont know the meaning of words you bring up

    You have no idea what a fact is or what an opnion is

    Ciro played for Juve, Desailly did not play for Inter and as far as I know has no dealings with Moriatti.

    This is just to get your blood hot and bothered and if you are not careful you'd be hypertensive or then again you can write another melodramatic emotional post saying ure quitting.
     
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    "Newspapers embellish, they twist your words to suit their purposes, they try to misinterpret situations, but to totally fabricate and make up stuff like you are trying to convince me that gazetta did, its not on at all."

    Now who shot himself in the foot?

    "So what happened to all the other papers in the country, the respectable ones?"

    They reported from an unbias stance and I've quoted them here many times.

    So why are you so convinced Moggi was an evil empire?


    Desailly lost titles to Juve and has reason to not like them. Good respectable source by the way.

    By the way you quit before me...you just came back when I was gone.
     

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