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    That doesn't change the fact, that if we use those money on transfers, then that will have a negative affect on the books in the comming years, as we pay for those players over their contract period.
    True but according to FFP you are only entitled to spend in accordance with what you earn. The idea is to minimize the amount of debts that are utilized to finance teams and rich owner recapitalizations which are seen as unfair to smaller clubs.

    If Juve get 250 million it would drastically reduce their need to acquire debt first of all but even if spent entirely on transfers (that would never happen) it would be ok because they would be doing it with capital that would have been acquired through operations (had the scandal been handled properly) rather than financing.

    I am no expert on FFP but as I interpret it, we would be in the clear to use the money. Realistically though the money would likely be used to pay down the Stadium debts which would see Juve net more and more income over the years as they would have little or nothing to pay back for it while earning. Future transfer budgets would reflect that.
     

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    gsol, are you optimistic about the outcome of all of this?

    The way I see it, we are more likely to get the scudetti back rather than damages, if we get anything at all.

    I'm more positive than ever before, though, but what do you think?
     
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    gsol, are you optimistic about the outcome of all of this?

    The way I see it, we are more likely to get the scudetti back rather than damages, if we get anything at all.

    I'm more positive than ever before, though, but what do you think?
    Time will tell. Things look a lot better than before so I'm more optimistic than a few months ago. The real positive signs are from a sporting perspective is UEFA’s involvement and from a financial standpoint the fact that a new investigation into Auricchio is being launched, that too seems more likely than before. While we were hoping before that the FIGC would admit they screwed up and pay us money (never would have happened) now we are seeing a civil trial where liability could be established. Hopefully Auricchio is spineless and gives everyone up.
     

    Jem83

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    Time will tell. Things look a lot better than before so I'm more optimistic than a few months ago. The real positive signs are from a sporting perspective is UEFA’s involvement and from a financial standpoint the fact that a new investigation into Auricchio is being launched, that too seems more likely than before. While we were hoping before that the FIGC would admit they screwed up and pay us money (never would have happened) now we are seeing a civil trial where liability could be established. Hopefully Auricchio is spineless and gives everyone up.
    Yes, that would be wonderful. Also, what makes me more positive about this whole thing, is the fact that EXOR now seems to give this their full backing. Not only is EXOR obscenely wealthy, but as I understand it, they have a huge political influence as well. Not only would they be able to afford the best lawyers around, but they could get a lot of people on their side. At least that's what I've heard from my italian friends, numeral times, that the family still has huge political power. It's about time they utilize it and make certain people talk (people such as Auricchio), and get important people on their side.

    Do you know anything about the lawyers Briamonte and Chiappero?
     
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    All I know is that Franzo Grande Stevens is highly regarded in Italy in terms of his legal prowess so if he employs them they should be good.
     

    MikeM

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    I just want the money. Trying to relegate Inter will be impossible. I'd basically say, "give me the money and we're even", even though we won't be close to even. I think that is the best we can do.
     

    Lo-Pan

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    Moggi's lawyers said they are going to open that investigation at their next court appearance. For the moment all roads lead to Col. Auricchio...hopefully he coughs up who he worked for.

    Lo-Pan, article 6s are sporting fraud/match fixing
    Cheers for the correction, mate...i will edit accordingly.
     
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    Auricchio will find a horse head in his bed soon, if our hope is on Auricchio saying names, i believe he will be killed (and consider as suicide) before he says the letter m of moratti
     

    Lo-Pan

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    True but according to FFP you are only entitled to spend in accordance with what you earn. The idea is to minimize the amount of debts that are utilized to finance teams and rich owner recapitalizations which are seen as unfair to smaller clubs.

    If Juve get 250 million it would drastically reduce their need to acquire debt first of all but even if spent entirely on transfers (that would never happen) it would be ok because they would be doing it with capital that would have been acquired through operations (had the scandal been handled properly) rather than financing.

    I am no expert on FFP but as I interpret it, we would be in the clear to use the money. Realistically though the money would likely be used to pay down the Stadium debts which would see Juve net more and more income over the years as they would have little or nothing to pay back for it while earning. Future transfer budgets would reflect that.
    Exactly what I was about to write...It would count as income. 250m IN, which we could spend however we wished and have no trouble whatsoever with the FFP rulings coming into play. The whole FFP routine is to bring down debts of clubs. If we earned 100m from a sponsor for a year, and our debts were running at 20m loss from the previous year, we can pay off that 20, and spunk the 80 on one player and his wages, if we please...ffp is completely focused on reducing the vast debts some clubs have been running for decades. I can't see how its going to make the smaller clubs have an easier time as the biggest clubs can make huge amounts through sponsorships and tv exposure and merchanidising, with or without the ffp rules. A club like real madrid, and/or Inter Milan may well be in more trouble, as they consistently run with huge debts. Man United's debts are actually quite complicated though, because of the glazier's complicated financial dealings, but sitll, the club itself is well run commercially...

    but overall 250m given to us, can be used as we please...
     

    v1rtu4l

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    I can't believe anyone believes we will get even one hundred italian lira as compensation. the fucking
    figc did deliberately delay any court room activity to have the statute of limitation prevent any harm to inter. I highly doubt that any high european court could make the figc responsible for this
    and force them to pay us.

    the figc is not like a real economic company that does have great income of money( apart from some inter bribe here and there).

    so if a court tells the figc to compensate they will simply say that they have no money and that is it. just like when a company goes bankrupt and most people who still have demands against the company will see no money

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    The UEFA involvement wouldn't have anything to do with compensation, the civil trials in Italy will. The fact that Moggi's team is launching an investigation into the 2006 evidence tampering as opposed to simply suing the FIGC in my mind is to establish liability beyond the FIGC. If Auricchio gives up the Telecom-Moratti connection in court it will be them who are held liable and the FIGC only marginally if at all.

    This doesn't mean that I think it will happen. It just seems more likely today than it did a month ago. I have some hope now.
     

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