Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (52 Viewers)

Hust

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Thanks man. You'll like this too. Tuttosport is saying that UEFA is opening an investigation into the manner in which the FIGC handled the scandal. Granted it is Tuttosport so I'm waiting for a more reputable source before I jizz over the news but it would be nice if UEFA initiated a move without Juventus' board having to request it. It would save a lot of time because Juve can't go to them until all the domestic sporting courts have been exhausted.
Wow. Optimism. :stuckup:


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Zé Tahir

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If at the end the verdict is that a lot of the teams, including Merda, were up to the same stuff Juve were accused of then that would mean equal punishment for those, correct?

In that ^ case, we wouldn't be compensated for and most probably the '05-'06 scudetto would become unassigned, correct?

If on the other hand the verdict is that no one really broke a rule, then we'd get back our scudetto and be compensated for our losses, correct?

Either way, we should be satisfied. As much as I'd want see Inter in Serie B, I'd rather take our scudetti back and get the 250m. That way we can build one of THE best squads in the world. My mouth is just watering at the thought of this :drool:
 

Fake Melo

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You know, I'd really love us to get justice, but I just don't see it happening.

I am expecting nothing else than Inter's scudetto 05/06 being vacated, and end of story.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.
 

DVS

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Nov 13, 2008
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The only real hope here is UEFA. If even they can't see through the bs then we're helpless.
I don't think FIGC will revoke just the 2006 scudetto from inter. That would mean that tons more is wrong from the first verdict and the decision would be criticized even more
 

Mark

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If at the end the verdict is that a lot of the teams, including Merda, were up to the same stuff Juve were accused of then that would mean equal punishment for those, correct?

In that ^ case, we wouldn't be compensated for and most probably the '05-'06 scudetto would become unassigned, correct?

If on the other hand the verdict is that no one really broke a rule, then we'd get back our scudetto and be compensated for our losses, correct?

Either way, we should be satisfied. As much as I'd want see Inter in Serie B, I'd rather take our scudetti back and get the 250m. That way we can build one of THE best squads in the world. My mouth is just watering at the thought of this :drool:
The verdict is just for Moggi. It's up to Juve after that who can ask for the scudetti back and compensation. The process of that as already started. Other clubs can't be punished because of the time that passed but I think a loophole or just a law they deliberately avoided could be found and have a re-trial after all the "new" evidence showed up 5 years later but don't count on it. I see no relegation or pts deducted for other club. Just the shame and disgrace of what they did, calls much worse than Moggi's.

I still don't know why an investigation hasn't started on why these calls showed up 5 year later. Calls that would have changed the whole scenario of Calciopoli.

Why 5 years later?
Who hid the evidence?
Who tapped those phones?
Why?
Did somebody want that evidence hidden for a while and not be prosecuted for it?
Did somebody want Juve's destruction?

...
 

Lo-Pan

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Feb 11, 2009
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If at the end the verdict is that a lot of the teams, including Merda, were up to the same stuff Juve were accused of then that would mean equal punishment for those, correct?

In that ^ case, we wouldn't be compensated for and most probably the '05-'06 scudetto would become unassigned, correct?

If on the other hand the verdict is that no one really broke a rule, then we'd get back our scudetto and be compensated for our losses, correct?

Either way, we should be satisfied. As much as I'd want see Inter in Serie B, I'd rather take our scudetti back and get the 250m. That way we can build one of THE best squads in the world. My mouth is just watering at the thought of this :drool:
There is also another option, the golden fleece, the shangri-la...of Inter and two other teams getting done for article 6 violations (of the sporting code). In which case their punishment would need to be hugely more savage than our punishment back in 2006. demotion, stripped titles was given to us for a collection of article 1 offences.

article 1s are misdemeanours...a player spitting at a ref, a manger telling a ref to eat shit and die...perhaps a spate of red cards for vi9olent conduct. small offences that happen all over the world every single weekend.

article 6s are sporting fruad, influencing games.

At best...we get 250m, our titles back, and inter go down to serie C.

How can they be proven to have comitted match fixing, yet be punished as we did for comitting misdemeanours???
 

Zé Tahir

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I don't think FIGC will revoke just the 2006 scudetto from inter. That would mean that tons more is wrong from the first verdict and the decision would be criticized even more
FIGC won't do shit though, no? They just ruled that they're powerless to return our scudetti due to statute of limitations. They're spineless cunts but essentially they've admitted their guilt or rather our innocence AND their incompetence.

The verdict is just for Moggi. It's up to Juve after that who can ask for the scudetti back and compensation. The process of that as already started. Other clubs can't be punished because of the time that passed but I think a loophole or just a law they deliberately avoided could be found and have a re-trial after all the "new" evidence showed up 5 years later but don't count on it. I see no relegation or pts deducted for other club. Just the shame and disgrace of what they did, calls much worse than Moggi's.

I still don't know why an investigation hasn't started on why these calls showed up 5 year later. Calls that would have changed the whole scenario of Calciopoli.

Why 5 years later?
Who hid the evidence?
Who tapped those phones?
Why?
Did somebody want that evidence hidden for a while and not be prosecuted for it?
Did somebody want Juve's destruction?

...
Correct me if I'm wrong here...but the Moggi trial only effects him. Also, he's going through civil trials while we appealed to the FIGC. I believe it was because of his success that we launched our appeal last year on which the FIGC just ruled. That, irrc, was our first step among many outlined by Andrea Agnelli.

There is also another option, the golden fleece, the shangri-la...of Inter and two other teams getting done for article 7 violations (of the sporting code). In which case their punishment would need to be hugely more savage than our punishment back in 2006. demotion, stripped titles was given to us for a collection of article 1 offences.

article 1s are misdemeanours...a player spitting at a ref, a manger telling a ref to eat shit and die...perhaps a spate of red cards for vi9olent conduct. small offences that happen all over the world every single weekend.

article 7s are sporting fruad, influencing games.

At best...we get 250m, our titles back, and inter go down to serie C.

How can they be proven to have comitted match fixing, yet be punished as we did for comitting misdemeanours???
That'd be sweet.
 

DVS

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FIGC won't do shit though, no? They just ruled that they're powerless to return our scudetti due to statute of limitations. They're spineless cunts but essentially they've admitted they're guilt or rather our innocence AND they're incompetence.
Yes thats FIGCs claim. I really don't feel too comfortable talking abotu this as guys like gsol would be better off commenting. However; wouldn't you think FIGC is shaking in their pants now. This Calciopoli deal has been opening the eyes of the average fan around the world. It really makes Serie A look mickey mouse. Now that Agnelli could possibly be going balls out and Elkann is on his side this incident will never get erased. Just embarassing FIGC
 

Zé Tahir

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Yes thats FIGCs claim. I really don't feel too comfortable talking abotu this as guys like gsol would be better off commenting. However; wouldn't you think FIGC is shaking in their pants now. This Calciopoli deal has been opening the eyes of the average fan around the world. It really makes Serie A look mickey mouse. Now that Agnelli could possibly be going balls out and Elkann is on his side this incident will never get erased. Just embarassing FIGC
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    The verdict is just for Moggi. It's up to Juve after that who can ask for the scudetti back and compensation. The process of that as already started. Other clubs can't be punished because of the time that passed but I think a loophole or just a law they deliberately avoided could be found and have a re-trial after all the "new" evidence showed up 5 years later but don't count on it. I see no relegation or pts deducted for other club. Just the shame and disgrace of what they did, calls much worse than Moggi's.

    I still don't know why an investigation hasn't started on why these calls showed up 5 year later. Calls that would have changed the whole scenario of Calciopoli.

    Why 5 years later?
    Who hid the evidence?
    Who tapped those phones?
    Why?
    Did somebody want that evidence hidden for a while and not be prosecuted for it?
    Did somebody want Juve's destruction?

    ...
    Moggi's lawyers said they are going to open that investigation at their next court appearance. For the moment all roads lead to Col. Auricchio...hopefully he coughs up who he worked for.

    Lo-Pan, article 6s are sporting fraud/match fixing
     
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    gsol

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    Yes thats FIGCs claim. I really don't feel too comfortable talking abotu this as guys like gsol would be better off commenting. However; wouldn't you think FIGC is shaking in their pants now. This Calciopoli deal has been opening the eyes of the average fan around the world. It really makes Serie A look mickey mouse. Now that Agnelli could possibly be going balls out and Elkann is on his side this incident will never get erased. Just embarassing FIGC
    FIGC have decided to wash their hands of the situation but UEFA can force their hand. That's why I want them to get involved.
     

    the jesus

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    If at the end the verdict is that a lot of the teams, including Merda, were up to the same stuff Juve were accused of then that would mean equal punishment for those, correct?

    In that ^ case, we wouldn't be compensated for and most probably the '05-'06 scudetto would become unassigned, correct?

    If on the other hand the verdict is that no one really broke a rule, then we'd get back our scudetto and be compensated for our losses, correct?

    Either way, we should be satisfied. As much as I'd want see Inter in Serie B, I'd rather take our scudetti back and get the 250m. That way we can build one of THE best squads in the world. My mouth is just watering at the thought of this :drool:
    I would rather see Inter in Serie B than getting our Scudetti back (I already see them as ours anyway) and getting the €250M.

    First of all because we couldn't use any of those money for new players because of FFP, and secondly because a demotion in these FFP days, pretty much would mean the end of Inter as a contender for anything other than a midtable finish.
     
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    gsol

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    I doubt the FFP would have any impact on the 250 mil if we got it. You have to consider that if it is given to us it would be given on the grounds that it was supposed to be ours years ago. It is money we lost or failed to earn as a result of a mistake.

    I don't see Inter getting relegated though. The FIGC has likely learned from falsopoli that getting rid of top ranked teams has ramifications and UEFA knows that too. No one wants to be in the business of losing money and no one is pushing the agenda like last time. In 2006 the guys that fund the league needed to become strong and win and they likely bullied their way to that inevitable conclusion (Juve in B) but Agnelli and co. don’t fund shit so even if they wanted Moratti and Inter in B they don’t have the same clout.

    My hope is that Auricchio fesses up when he is charged and gives up the Telecom and Inter names that he manipulated evidence for. That would net us the 250 million at the FIGC’s, Telecom’s and Inter’s expense as they would be held liable.

    Then I hope one of the sporting tribunals strips Inter of the title that was ours and hands the two wrongfully stripped back to us.

    My last wish would be for Inter to be suspended for a period of time from UEFA competition. Realistically all UEFA can do is that anyway along with threaten the FIGC with not permitting registration of their teams unless they clean themselves up.

    If Inter got suspended from UEFA competition for a few years they would be on their way to battling Cagliari for a top 10 spot for decades. They are already in huge financial peril so no CL money would cripple them. Not to mention attracting talent would become difficult.

    Today all this seems unrealistic but depending on what happens at the end of the Naples trial, what comes from the upcoming Auricchio trial and the UEFA's investigation, the possibility could become more and more likely. After all, they aren't investigating for nothing. There has to be a goal. I'm just glad someone outside Italy is now paying attention.
     

    the jesus

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    I doubt the FFP would have any impact on the 250 mil if we got it. You have to consider that if it is given to us it would be given on the grounds that it was supposed to be ours years ago. It is money we lost or failed to earn as a result of a mistake.
    That doesn't change the fact, that if we use those money on transfers, then that will have a negative affect on the books in the comming years, as we pay for those players over their contract period.
     

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