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Heaven is presented, according to their concept, as an immeasurably large garden literally abounding in beautiful trees casting eternal shadows under which rivers will flow. The rivers would be of milk and honey. The garden will be fruit bearing and all man may desire of fruits would be his at his command. The meat would be that of birds of all sorts; it is only for one to wish which meat he particularly craves. Female companions of exceeding beauty and refinement would be provided to the pious men, with no limit imposed on the number, which will be decided according to their capacity. As many as they can cope with will be theirs. What would they do? How would they relate with each other? Will they bear children or lead a barren life of enjoyment? These are all the moot questions. The enjoyment, as it is conceived, is intensely sensual. No work to be performed, no labour to be wasted, no effort to be made. A perfect life (if such life can be called perfect) of complete and total indolence, with the option of overeating and over-drinking, because also wine will be flowing close to the rivers of milk and honey. No fear of dyspepsia or intoxication! Reclining on heavenly cushions of silk and brocade, they will while their time away in eternal bliss -- but what an eternal bliss!
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Zé Tahir

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I did. :D I still see it as a redundant explanation to arrive at the same conclusion: I don't know. It's just put in different words, like beyond our imagination, a form we don't have the slightest knowledge of.
You pissed it insults your capacity for imagining? :p

Seriously though. You don't have to understand or believe it but you see you can't make generalized statements about what someone else believes based on what you hear.

Something else to remember is that while the explanation you just read is something I believe in as a Muslim doesn't necessarily mean that Fred or Osman believes in.
 
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You pissed it insults your capacity for imagining? :p

Seriously though. You don't have to understand or believe it but you see you can't make generalized statements about what someone else believes based on what you hear.

Something else to remember is that while the explanation you just read is something I believe in as a Muslim doesn't necessarily mean that Fred or Osman believes in.
Not just mine, but every other human who is reading that. :D To say that our imagination, comprehension and logic is useless and to believe in a higher logic and comprehension is indeed kind of insulting. I mean, if a mere human like me cannot comprehend it, then who the hell are you(the author) to tell me that it's incomprehensible? That is insulting.

I understand that different people believe in different things. But with such an attitude, discussions like these will go nowhere. It's the same old "I believe in this, so it's true for me. Screw you. End of discussion". I don't think that really contributes to anything.
 
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Also Tahir, the parts towards the end where he talks about the creation of life is spread over billions of years, the evolution of life... is that the views of the author, or are these things mentioned in the Quran?
 

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Not just mine, but every other human who is reading that. :D To say that our imagination, comprehension and logic is useless and to believe in a higher logic and comprehension is indeed kind of insulting. I mean, if a mere human like me cannot comprehend it, then who the hell are you(the author) to tell me that it's incomprehensible? That is insulting.

I understand that different people believe in different things. But with such an attitude, discussions like these will go nowhere. It's the same old "I believe in this, so it's true for me. Screw you. End of discussion". I don't think that really contributes to anything.
Sheik, you have to understand that the Qur'an is a book meant for all of time. As time goes on, as mankind matures (in various ways including science), there will always be room for the reader to interpret things. It's not something that is a coincidence but something that is considered to be a positive quality of the book.

We don't know how exactly heaven and hell will be , but it's not a complete mystery therefore these parts of religion are not something that's going to make or break someones faith.

Also Tahir, the parts towards the end where he talks about the creation of life is spread over billions of years, the evolution of life... is that the views of the author, or are these things mentioned in the Quran?
Those are the views of the author based on the Qur'an, Hadith, and Sunna. Anything and everything on that website is the official word/stance of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam.
 
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Sheik, you have to understand that the Qur'an is a book meant for all of time. As time goes on, as mankind matures (in various ways including science), there will always be room for the reader to interpret things. It's not something that is a coincidence but something that is considered to be a positive quality of the book.

We don't know how exactly heaven and hell will be , but it's not a complete mystery therefore these parts of religion are not something that's going to make or break someones faith.
I think it would be beautiful to actually live during a period where science and religion can be definitely deemed to be compatible! :touched:
 

Naggar

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They were very compatible in the Islamic country, Sheik

The idea most people have that religions are anti-science is caused by what the catholic church was doing in Europe during their dark middle ages, but at the same period of time the exact opposite was happening in Cairo, Demascus, Baghdad and Andalus (Spain). Muslim scientists had their freedom protected by Islam, or else the likes of Alkhwarizmi, Ibnu-Sina, Alzawahri, and Ibn-Rushd would have been burned for coming up with new things that people weren't used to (like Europe), but like Tahir said, Qur'an is meant for all time, it's not fixed on one meaning but the more knowledge you gain the more you can discover in the book : )
 

Nedvěd

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There are kinds of hijabs too, the one that covers the hair only (I think Iranians use them mostly), and other ones that covers the hair completely plus the neck.
There's another type of Hijab, it covers the (bald) head and the shaft.
 

JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
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I don't know much about burqa, but for hijab for example - and I guess the concepts would still be similar - I think a lot of people overlook the fact that in Islam at least I don't think it's just a 'piece of clothing' to cover you up etc. When having the hijab on, you are pretty much restrained from doing a lot of things Islam already taught you not to do - you can't wear the hijab and go to clubs, you can't wear it and drink in public, or even smoke it will just look weird. When you have it on, you are sort of a representation of the religion itself and its beliefs, which is why I think some women actually choose to wear it, it's the kind of lifestyle they wish to lead. I'm not saying it's any better than non-hijab wearing women, but it is a choice. So what's the big deal? It's different to what some of the people here are accustomed to, just like how wearing minimal clothing is different to theirs.
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Sadly there's many girls I know who do those while wearing a Hijab these days AND it was their choice to wear it in the first place.

ok all those terms for muslim veils got me confused.I googled and hijab is the one that covers only the hair.I got no problem with it,i'd be shocked though if there were university profferors wearing the burqa.
There's. I've seen two here and they're pretty good at what they teach, contrary to what your racist mind feeds you.

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Someone told me the other day that the Quran instructs Muslims to cover themselves in pizza sauce and root for the Azzurri.
That was long before Saudia made it to the wc though :disagree:
 

Nedvěd

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There's some girls who wear Hijab and do worse than smoking and drinking.
I remember few months ago seeing 3 girls wearing Hijab going into a very suspicious place @ 3am. I asked them if they have a change and the guy who drove them to that place was angry as hell because I talked to them.
 

JBF

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You asked a bunch of supposed busty girls at 3 a.m if they've change?:lol:


Sho kont nawi tishtareelhom 3ilke? :p
 
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They were very compatible in the Islamic country, Sheik

The idea most people have that religions are anti-science is caused by what the catholic church was doing in Europe during their dark middle ages, but at the same period of time the exact opposite was happening in Cairo, Demascus, Baghdad and Andalus (Spain). Muslim scientists had their freedom protected by Islam, or else the likes of Alkhwarizmi, Ibnu-Sina, Alzawahri, and Ibn-Rushd would have been burned for coming up with new things that people weren't used to (like Europe), but like Tahir said, Qur'an is meant for all time, it's not fixed on one meaning but the more knowledge you gain the more you can discover in the book : )
When I said compatibility, I meant that scientific discoveries will coincide with religious creation myths or other claims that science can prove to be true, and not that religion opposes science of all kinds.
 

Nedvěd

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You asked a bunch of supposed busty girls at 3 a.m if they've change?:lol:


Sho kont nawi tishtareelhom 3ilke? :p
I had a 20jd and me and my mate were fucking hungry. Those girls were near Maktabet 2l 2seteklal 2l swefeieh, kont bedi frata mshan 2shtari ka3ek min ma7al 2l ka3ek 2l wara maktabet 2l 2steklal bs ma fe fratet 20, fa sheft 2l banat fayteen 3ala 3amara, fa ro7t sa2althom wela 2ja shab be7keeli 'shu bidak minhom?' goltelo bedi frata, gali mafi frata 2mshi min hoon.
 

JBF

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Wal, wal. Ma nikt o5to y3ni? :shocked:



In your defence though, ma7al 2il ka3k hadak min 2il a5er. He's my 2nd favorite, or used to be anyway :D
 
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