Juventus:
CL: 2 times (in 7 finals)
UEFA Cup: 3
European SuperCup: 2
Cup Winners' Cup: 1
Intercontinental: 2
TOTAL: 10 intl Titles
Bayern:
CL: 4
UEFA Cup: ZER0
European SuperCup: ZER0
Cup Winners' Cup: 1
Intercontinental: 2
TOTAL: 7
^ How is that better exactly?
oh and you lost to us, 3 times in 4 games, hmm where was it? Oh yeah it was in EUROPE!
Don't know where you got your information, but I'm pretty sure we won the UEFA Cup in 1996 let me check...
Previous Winners Of The Uefa Cup
UEFA Cup 1972 - Date
1996 Bayern 5-1 Bordeaux
1995 Parma 2-1 Juventus
Forza Parma...
(That information was from UEFA.com)
So pretty please, with sugar on top, shut the fuck up...
STOP READING!
It does count, really. But Bayern has 20 Bundesliga Titles, Juventus has 27. Everybody knows which league is more difficult, and we could actually have 29 Scudetti depending on the evidence against us. So come on... is Bayern really superior to Juve? I don't buy it at all. It's bullshit. Bayern should probably have more Bundesliga titles than Juve if they want to be considered better than Juve.
Real Madrid is head and shoulders above the rest, Milan has a great record in Europe, Boca is the best side in the Americas, Liverpool has a stunning number of European victories, Juventus and Bayern are the greatest sides within their own leagues. I think any more dicussion is pointless.
Who cares. Our Ultras could fuck up Bayern anyday of the week.
a) Yea, but our league wasn't founded until 1965.
b) Ultras? What the fuck, man, we sell out EVERY home game, every one, that's 66000 fans, when was the last time you had more than 1200 for a Juve game....you can't, couldn't and didn't even fill your own stadium...so don't give me this shit about ultras....you are talking about 2500 cavalry members, I'm talking about 66000 fans...
It's like comparing a circumcision to an orgasm.