Buddhist mobs spread fear among Myanmar’s Muslims, as religious violence spreads (4 Viewers)
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first of all there are far more threads decrying violence of Y than there are of X, yesterday the X soldier who murdered 16 Y women and children in cold blood had his life spared and nobody cared or decried his actions.
secondly, there is no such thing as a "healthy" reservation, you either have a reservation or you dont.
thirdly, when you do have a reservation about one person's beliefs your opinion on that person cant be objective for you already have them boxed and tagged.
I'm not talking about radicals doing stupid shit. those are everywere. I'm talking to problems inside a country when a group of X start revolting, or try taking over Y.
Or cases where a new X takes over the goverment, and suddenly these stupid laws come trough.
There is a healthy reservation, and it is quite simple. I have absolutely no problem with people just minding their own business in their private time.
However, in public, when there are certain traditions and habbits, and you refuse to adapt to those, that i dont like.
Hence, every month there is another story of some muslim politician, who immediatly gets a good following, that would want to drastically change the laws we got. implement sharia in belgium. their support slowly grows. they also outbreed us.
That very notion, is what worries western europeans. I dont want that situation. But i have absolutely no problem with people comming to live here and try to blend in, in fact i greatly appreciate those.
Or cases where a new X takes over the goverment, and suddenly these stupid laws come trough.
There is a healthy reservation, and it is quite simple. I have absolutely no problem with people just minding their own business in their private time.
However, in public, when there are certain traditions and habbits, and you refuse to adapt to those, that i dont like.
Hence, every month there is another story of some muslim politician, who immediatly gets a good following, that would want to drastically change the laws we got. implement sharia in belgium. their support slowly grows. they also outbreed us.
That very notion, is what worries western europeans. I dont want that situation. But i have absolutely no problem with people comming to live here and try to blend in, in fact i greatly appreciate those.
these are 2 different issues, amalgamation of both is erroneous, one is dealing with immigration and assimilation of culturally diffirent groups, which in your case involves africans, you would have the same exact reaction if it had been mexicans, so the ideology of the group is irrelevant. But having genuine reservation towards the ideology itself is a different matter and cant be mixed or justified by the former.
You really make to much of it man.
Its entirely based on the concept on wether you wish to accept the traditions and norms of the place you move to.
I allways adapt. if i dont want to adapt, i dont go. pretty much like that.
If a country doesnt want a tourist girl to run around in bikini, then the girl should go someplace else. Dont offend the habits of the local people
Its entirely based on the concept on wether you wish to accept the traditions and norms of the place you move to.
I allways adapt. if i dont want to adapt, i dont go. pretty much like that.
If a country doesnt want a tourist girl to run around in bikini, then the girl should go someplace else. Dont offend the habits of the local people
Oh that was merely sarcasm. what i said above, it what i meant with "healthy reservation". there is an issue of the integration of muslims in the westeren european country's. Mostly based on the aboved, the not wanting to blend in. So we are a bit reservated, cause they dont want to blend in.
then we have borderline racist party's making people scared, borderline muslim radical party's making people scared.
But i'm also the one saying palestina situation is horrible, or new delphi. Or americans invading the next oil well, the things we did wrong in africa, the big value the middle east has provided to the knowledge we possess current day.
and, yet, i'm reserved, but in a healthy way.
You need to live in a place like this, to understand why. If immigration goes flawlesly, like in canada wich is probably the best country in the world, then you dont see the issue.
then we have borderline racist party's making people scared, borderline muslim radical party's making people scared.
But i'm also the one saying palestina situation is horrible, or new delphi. Or americans invading the next oil well, the things we did wrong in africa, the big value the middle east has provided to the knowledge we possess current day.
and, yet, i'm reserved, but in a healthy way.
You need to live in a place like this, to understand why. If immigration goes flawlesly, like in canada wich is probably the best country in the world, then you dont see the issue.
Its still much better then here.
one must alto take in accound, history. (no cronios, go away)
In belgium, like many european country's, we had a huge problem with catolic religion. it took so many years to get rid of it, it took so many efford.
separating religion and goverment, took so long, making public places free of religion etc. removing crosses from courts, classrooms, etc.
Now we are finally at a point where we are completely free from the effects of religion. And then there comes the issue of wearing a headdress while working a public service. We dont want it, we pushed out every religious mark, why should we allow this now.
such issue's, make it difficult, and thats just a little one.
It also gives funny discuttions. we got a course called "RZL" (religie, zinsgeving, levensbeschouwing). Had a morrocan guy in class, claiming if he's girlfriend cheated him, she should be stoned, but if he did it, it was normal.
The class was mostly girls, it was very fun to watch the reactions
one must alto take in accound, history. (no cronios, go away)
In belgium, like many european country's, we had a huge problem with catolic religion. it took so many years to get rid of it, it took so many efford.
separating religion and goverment, took so long, making public places free of religion etc. removing crosses from courts, classrooms, etc.
Now we are finally at a point where we are completely free from the effects of religion. And then there comes the issue of wearing a headdress while working a public service. We dont want it, we pushed out every religious mark, why should we allow this now.
such issue's, make it difficult, and thats just a little one.
It also gives funny discuttions. we got a course called "RZL" (religie, zinsgeving, levensbeschouwing). Had a morrocan guy in class, claiming if he's girlfriend cheated him, she should be stoned, but if he did it, it was normal.
The class was mostly girls, it was very fun to watch the reactions
