Brilliant, another country developes nuclear weapons? Oh lord, save us from Dubya. (16 Viewers)

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Zlatan

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    OK, fair enough, but I dont see why you had to help Milošević in attacking Bosnia? Because that fuck Tuđman wanted a piece of our land as well.

    And the work around Sarajevo was as good as possible, considering we went into the war without any weapons and that there was no army until 93', only volonteers organized into the TO. Sarajevo was the main point in Bosnia and it had to be kept at all costs, had Sarajevo fell, the whole of Bosnia would have fallen under Serb hands.
     
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    Attacking Bosnia? Well wrong my friend,well wrong. It was BiH Army that attacked the HVO facility near Mostar and than the shit started to happen. HVO wasn't Croatian army,it was a volunteer unit of both sides(inside the Bosnia&Herzegovina) until the attack happened. Later it was reinforced with war-veterans from Croatia.....

    Onley time that Croatian army went into Bosnia was in liberation of Bihać,and that was done with permission of Bosnian authorities.
     
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    Zlatan

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    Right, and I suppose thats why Tuđman drew up a map of Bosnia divided into a Croatian and a Bosnian part on a dinner with Milošević?

    You know as well as I do that the HVO was under the Tuđmans command.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Well then, if people are so keen to bring terrorist attacks here, go ahead and try, if thats the general consensus. If people think two wrongs make a right, go ahead and avenge the deaths of whoever we killed that deserved to be killed. A call to arms people, USA versus the world.

    Ian...that's the american mentality!
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Bark, if you Europeans refrained from trying to exterminate the entire race of Jews from the planet in the 1930's and 40's, then the allied nations who were victorious in WWII would not have seen the need to create a Jewish state. I'm sure the Jews would have been happy going on about their lives in Germany, Poland, etc. and not being uprooted. Sure, the Palestinians got hosed on that, but didn't Britain control Palestine at the time. What is Britain's responsibilty. Please, before you answer, remember that Briatain was one of the few European nations that did not participate in the extermination of the Jews.

    Now..u know that's not why they went over to Europe. You seriously believe they went there to help the jews? They went there b/c they got attacked. Before the attack, they used to send ships filled of jews looking for asylum in the USA away from their harbors. They went to save they're own asses. And speakin of exterminating ppl...who exterminated the Native Americans...? I believe it was America.. No other people, atleast to my knowledge, have been reduced to so few..
     

    Bjerknes

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    Now..u know that's not why they went over to Europe. You seriously believe they went there to help the jews? They went there b/c they got attacked. Before the attack, they used to send ships filled of jews looking for asylum in the USA away from their harbors. They went to save they're own asses. And speakin of exterminating ppl...who exterminated the Native Americans...? I believe it was America.. No other people, atleast to my knowledge, have been reduced to so few..
    Dude, please try to make more sense next time. And you're one to comment on our history buddy...
     
    Apr 12, 2004
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    Now..u know that's not why they went over to Europe. You seriously believe they went there to help the jews? They went there b/c they got attacked. Before the attack, they used to send ships filled of jews looking for asylum in the USA away from their harbors. They went to save they're own asses. And speakin of exterminating ppl...who exterminated the Native Americans...? I believe it was America.. No other people, atleast to my knowledge, have been reduced to so few..
    First of all the Jews were turned away not because we felt schadenfreude (look it up, it is English), but because we did not in any way want to get involved in the war, chump!


    P.S. - The Native American thing is too overplayed by you, and it is weak.
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    P.S. - The Native American thing is too overplayed by you, and it is weak.
    Overplayed? I don't think so. If anything it's sadly understated. There has rarely been a more dispicable or complete genocide in history. Americans whiped out 95% of Native Americans...

    Native Americans are still reeling from that sad episode...
     
    Jul 12, 2002
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    I don't hear them complaning.
    :LOL: Exactly! They live in appalling poverty, they have the highest rates of alchoholism, unemployment, and crime in America. The problem is that the genocide committed against them has reduced their population to less than 1% of the total American population and they are thus easily ignored. Go visit a reservation, and talk to the old men and women who sit on their porches and you'll hear the saddest stories you'll get in America...
     

    Bjerknes

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    Overplayed? I don't think so. If anything it's sadly understated. There has rarely been a more dispicable or complete genocide in history. Americans whiped out 95% of Native Americans...

    Native Americans are still reeling from that sad episode...
    Everybody makes their fair share of etrocities Ian, and I wish they could have worked out an agreement.
     
    Apr 12, 2004
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    :LOL: Exactly! They live in appalling poverty, they have the highest rates of alchoholism, unemployment, and crime in America. The problem is that the genocide committed against them has reduced their population to less than 1% of the total American population and they are thus easily ignored. Go visit a reservation, and talk to the old men and women who sit on their porches and you'll hear the saddest stories you'll get in America...
    :blah:
     

    The Pado

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    Now..u know that's not why they went over to Europe. You seriously believe they went there to help the jews? They went there b/c they got attacked. Before the attack, they used to send ships filled of jews looking for asylum in the USA away from their harbors. They went to save they're own asses. And speakin of exterminating ppl...who exterminated the Native Americans...? I believe it was America.. No other people, atleast to my knowledge, have been reduced to so few..
    Dummy, stop smoking crack and learn to read. You quoted me so please tell me where I mentioned America's reasons for getting into WWII. I was addressing, on point, the creation of the Jewish state at the conclusion of WWII and the reason why it was necessary to create Israel. I have no idea how you could have read anything else into my post.

    And please don't try to justify the Nazi war crimes by pointing to similar acts. All human extermination is wrong. And FYI the first member of the Padovano family landed in the USA about 100 years after the Indian killings, so you failed to guilt me into any sort of angst.
     
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