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Dunno you guys but I'm even more mad reading the past
"In April 2005 the guarantee notices arrived for the managers of the Milanese clubs, guilty of having exchanged eight players in 2003 (among other things, the transfer of goalkeeper Brunelli caused a sensation, who found himself at Inter without his knowledge due to of a forged document). "Failed to present the exact financial situation to the FIGC for the purposes of preparatory checks for admission to the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 championships", this was the initial accusation, followed by the referral of the head of the Attorney General Palazzi for not having registered in balance between 2003 and 2004 "abnormal and instrumental evaluation of some players". After all this chaos, the Milanese clubs negotiated a fine of 90,000 euros "
"1 - What are the accusations leveled against Inter and Milan by public prosecutor Carlo Nocerino? In the documents of the "closed investigation" the investigating magistrate hypothesizes a series of criminal offenses committed by the two Milanese companies. The most probable is the "false accounting". In particular, he disputes that he used the capital gains to inflate the balance sheets so as not to have to cover the losses with the injection of fresh money. Thanks to this accounting cosmetics, again according to the prosecutor, the Nerazzurri would have provided Covisoc with a financial situation different from the real one for registration in the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 championships. In particular, according to Nocerino's calculations, Inter's balance sheet "would have led to the exposure of a greater net worth of 32,459,713.44 euros". Some important market operations are under fire, such as that of the cross-purchase of former Lazio players Corradi and Crespo which according to the magistrate would have yielded "overvalued rights for 6,699,941.80 euros". Not only that: Inter then would have excessively devalued the value of some players such as Morfeo, Semioli and Crespo himself. At Milan, on the other hand, Nocerino contests irregularities in the financial statements closed in 2003 and 2004. In other words, the Rossoneri club allegedly completely counterfeited the value of at least 18 players (some unknown, such as Varaldi or Livi, others better known, such as Donadel or Sammarco) and presented "for the purpose of verifying admission to the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 championships, untruthful materials and alteration of the club's financial situation". 2 - What is the defensive line of Inter and Milan? The lawyers of the two companies have until July 10 to present counter-arguments. Furthermore, the top managers of the clubs could then ask to be heard to explain some passages to the magistrate. In any case, both Moratti and Galliani displayed optimism. Why? The crime of false accounting through capital gains has yet to be proven (and the proof is borne by the investigators) despite the prosecutor's arguments. Not only that, other clubs have gone to trial for the same reason, and where the statute of limitations hasn't intervened, the judiciary has thought to exonerate the clubs. In Lecce and Palermo the criminal cases have evaporated. In the sentence of the investigating judge Andrea Lisi of Lecce (February 2006) it is written that "the fact does not exist". 3 - How and when did the investigation into capital gains in football clubs start? It all started with a maxi complaint made in 2004 by the then president of Bologna, Giuseppe Gazzoni Frascara. The patron of the Emilians claimed that the most widespread doping in football was administrative doping. The following year, Bologna, relegated to B after losing the play-off against Parma, had asked the FIGC to be fished out instead of the clubs with altered accounts. But a different answer came from Covisoc (the sports body that supervises financial statements). Gazzoni Frascara then decided to abandon football, but in the meantime his complaint to ordinary justice had triggered the investigation. The investigations were divided due to territorial jurisdiction: the section concerning Inter and Milan remained in Milan. 4 - What are the next steps of the criminal investigation? Prosecutor Nocerino, once the counter-arguments presented by the defense have been evaluated, will draw the conclusions of the investigation. In theory, it could even close the whole thing, not recognizing the hypothesis of a crime, but from the papers already filed, and used to inform Inter and Milan of the conclusion of the preliminary investigation phase, it is easy to imagine that the magistrate will formulate the request for indictment (probably for false accounting) against the Inter president Massimo Moratti, the vice president Rinaldo Ghelfi and Mauro Gambaro (former Nerazzurri manager). For Milan there will be a similar request for Adriano Galliani. At that point it will be up to the gup (preliminary hearing judge) to decide whether to accept the indictment and send everyone to trial or close the case. 5 - What could be the sporting consequences for Inter and Milan? In short, what are they risking? In order to proceed, the sports justice will have to request the documents from the ordinary judiciary. The federal prosecutor, however, will at least wait for an indictment by the investigating judge before opening the file. We take it for granted, however, that sports justice will also proceed against Inter and Milan: the alleged violations would be configured as administrative offences. By regulation, the alteration of the balance sheets, even partial, and of the documents required by Covisoc for registration in the championships falls under article 7 (violations in management and economic matters) to which article 13 is linked, which defines the sanctions for companies found guilty: ranging from a penalty of one or more points in the standings to relegation to last place. Not only that, also foreseen the e.g "
https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Altro_Calcio/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/23/plusvalenze.shtml
https://www.ilgiornale.it/news/plusvalenza-non-reato-assolti-inter-milan-e-galliani.html
Milan and Inter in 2003 exchanged 8 players. They falsified the sign of one of their player for him to be swapped while he didn't know a thing.
But in ended as
""Value gain is not a crime" Inter, Milan and Galliani acquitted February 1, 2008 - 02:02 Filed the false accounting charges. The Gup: there was no administrative doping "
But we're criminalized cause we're in the stock and we've been wiretapped.
"In April 2005 the guarantee notices arrived for the managers of the Milanese clubs, guilty of having exchanged eight players in 2003 (among other things, the transfer of goalkeeper Brunelli caused a sensation, who found himself at Inter without his knowledge due to of a forged document). "Failed to present the exact financial situation to the FIGC for the purposes of preparatory checks for admission to the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 championships", this was the initial accusation, followed by the referral of the head of the Attorney General Palazzi for not having registered in balance between 2003 and 2004 "abnormal and instrumental evaluation of some players". After all this chaos, the Milanese clubs negotiated a fine of 90,000 euros "
"1 - What are the accusations leveled against Inter and Milan by public prosecutor Carlo Nocerino? In the documents of the "closed investigation" the investigating magistrate hypothesizes a series of criminal offenses committed by the two Milanese companies. The most probable is the "false accounting". In particular, he disputes that he used the capital gains to inflate the balance sheets so as not to have to cover the losses with the injection of fresh money. Thanks to this accounting cosmetics, again according to the prosecutor, the Nerazzurri would have provided Covisoc with a financial situation different from the real one for registration in the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 championships. In particular, according to Nocerino's calculations, Inter's balance sheet "would have led to the exposure of a greater net worth of 32,459,713.44 euros". Some important market operations are under fire, such as that of the cross-purchase of former Lazio players Corradi and Crespo which according to the magistrate would have yielded "overvalued rights for 6,699,941.80 euros". Not only that: Inter then would have excessively devalued the value of some players such as Morfeo, Semioli and Crespo himself. At Milan, on the other hand, Nocerino contests irregularities in the financial statements closed in 2003 and 2004. In other words, the Rossoneri club allegedly completely counterfeited the value of at least 18 players (some unknown, such as Varaldi or Livi, others better known, such as Donadel or Sammarco) and presented "for the purpose of verifying admission to the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 championships, untruthful materials and alteration of the club's financial situation". 2 - What is the defensive line of Inter and Milan? The lawyers of the two companies have until July 10 to present counter-arguments. Furthermore, the top managers of the clubs could then ask to be heard to explain some passages to the magistrate. In any case, both Moratti and Galliani displayed optimism. Why? The crime of false accounting through capital gains has yet to be proven (and the proof is borne by the investigators) despite the prosecutor's arguments. Not only that, other clubs have gone to trial for the same reason, and where the statute of limitations hasn't intervened, the judiciary has thought to exonerate the clubs. In Lecce and Palermo the criminal cases have evaporated. In the sentence of the investigating judge Andrea Lisi of Lecce (February 2006) it is written that "the fact does not exist". 3 - How and when did the investigation into capital gains in football clubs start? It all started with a maxi complaint made in 2004 by the then president of Bologna, Giuseppe Gazzoni Frascara. The patron of the Emilians claimed that the most widespread doping in football was administrative doping. The following year, Bologna, relegated to B after losing the play-off against Parma, had asked the FIGC to be fished out instead of the clubs with altered accounts. But a different answer came from Covisoc (the sports body that supervises financial statements). Gazzoni Frascara then decided to abandon football, but in the meantime his complaint to ordinary justice had triggered the investigation. The investigations were divided due to territorial jurisdiction: the section concerning Inter and Milan remained in Milan. 4 - What are the next steps of the criminal investigation? Prosecutor Nocerino, once the counter-arguments presented by the defense have been evaluated, will draw the conclusions of the investigation. In theory, it could even close the whole thing, not recognizing the hypothesis of a crime, but from the papers already filed, and used to inform Inter and Milan of the conclusion of the preliminary investigation phase, it is easy to imagine that the magistrate will formulate the request for indictment (probably for false accounting) against the Inter president Massimo Moratti, the vice president Rinaldo Ghelfi and Mauro Gambaro (former Nerazzurri manager). For Milan there will be a similar request for Adriano Galliani. At that point it will be up to the gup (preliminary hearing judge) to decide whether to accept the indictment and send everyone to trial or close the case. 5 - What could be the sporting consequences for Inter and Milan? In short, what are they risking? In order to proceed, the sports justice will have to request the documents from the ordinary judiciary. The federal prosecutor, however, will at least wait for an indictment by the investigating judge before opening the file. We take it for granted, however, that sports justice will also proceed against Inter and Milan: the alleged violations would be configured as administrative offences. By regulation, the alteration of the balance sheets, even partial, and of the documents required by Covisoc for registration in the championships falls under article 7 (violations in management and economic matters) to which article 13 is linked, which defines the sanctions for companies found guilty: ranging from a penalty of one or more points in the standings to relegation to last place. Not only that, also foreseen the e.g "
https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Altro_Calcio/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/23/plusvalenze.shtml
https://www.ilgiornale.it/news/plusvalenza-non-reato-assolti-inter-milan-e-galliani.html
Milan and Inter in 2003 exchanged 8 players. They falsified the sign of one of their player for him to be swapped while he didn't know a thing.
But in ended as
""Value gain is not a crime" Inter, Milan and Galliani acquitted February 1, 2008 - 02:02 Filed the false accounting charges. The Gup: there was no administrative doping "
But we're criminalized cause we're in the stock and we've been wiretapped.
Ofc, because he didnt win 5 titles in a row here... Even if Id agree with you that he cant build a team, which I dont as he rebuilt this team when our key players left in the summer of 2015, he would be taking Ligue winning side and build on that. Allegri in a star studded team like PSG, with basically unlimited funds is a freightening prospect.
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