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https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...tus-andrea-agnelli-fabio-paratici-plusvalenze
Great job AA + Paratici
Great job AA + Paratici
Pls bring in Boumsong to talk about whether Bremer is doing a good job or not
Just to be clear, the article by a Milan newspaper saying we’ll be excluded from UEFA competitions is based on absolutely nothing and they admit it themselves in the article. They’re not new to this kind of “reporting” about Juventus.
Talking about the subject, Calvo has said that they are repeatedly in contact with UEFA over the matter and they are not worried. I wouldn’t take that at face value, but I believe at least this temporary management is not acting too aggressive on the Super League matter as much as the old management was (even if Elkann still seems to stick by the project).
Talking about the subject, Calvo has said that they are repeatedly in contact with UEFA over the matter and they are not worried. I wouldn’t take that at face value, but I believe at least this temporary management is not acting too aggressive on the Super League matter as much as the old management was (even if Elkann still seems to stick by the project).
It was very lopsided though, with only passing mentions of anybody else. The one-sentence summary of calciopoli is a decade+ out of date as well. There was a paragraph about how there are two sides in Italy, the anti-Juve one and the pro-Juve one. He then writes, without being open about that bias, exclusively from the anti-Juve side.
Writing an article about how Juventus may have fucked up big is one thing, but when the only articles about scandals in Serie A are about us - and are presented as objective, top-down exposition - it confirms and strengthens the view that we are the rotten soul of calcio.
And to be clear, I think we're a part of that rotten soul. How could we not be? But it doesn't start and end with us.
Writing an article about how Juventus may have fucked up big is one thing, but when the only articles about scandals in Serie A are about us - and are presented as objective, top-down exposition - it confirms and strengthens the view that we are the rotten soul of calcio.
And to be clear, I think we're a part of that rotten soul. How could we not be? But it doesn't start and end with us.
very one sided article with plenty of conclusions not based on facts. it's too long for a quick fact check while i'm on my phone but believe me this is some lazy reporting that completely ignores the obvious systematic bias against juventus
and once again, incompetence isn't illegal. plusvalenza isn't illegal. having business relations with other clubs isn't illegal, everybody does these. and juventus is the only club that is punished
and once again, incompetence isn't illegal. plusvalenza isn't illegal. having business relations with other clubs isn't illegal, everybody does these. and juventus is the only club that is punished
I don't see this as being written from an anti-Juve side. Nor do I get the idea that it's claimed that the problems start & end with JJ. I don't see a lot of big claims about legal vs illegal either.
Sure, Agnelli's general incompetence is epmhasized, but that's what got us here in the first place.
I think people (read Juve fans) need to remove their JJ tinted glasses. But maybe it's just me.
Edit: I knew the author's name sounded familiar. I've read 3 of his books.
Sure, Agnelli's general incompetence is epmhasized, but that's what got us here in the first place.
I think people (read Juve fans) need to remove their JJ tinted glasses. But maybe it's just me.
Edit: I knew the author's name sounded familiar. I've read 3 of his books.
it's not anti-juve, it's just one sided. one thing i fail to understand how journalists won't see the bigger picture even though it's so obvious - or if they see it, they aren't addressing it
the whole plusvalenza case stinks, and i know enough about it to say that it's nothing more than a political attack. many clubs do it, multiple clubs are on the stock market (one of the most common arguments is that juve is on the stock market so they deserve a special treatment lol), many clubs have shady deals, they aren't even investigated. juve (and any club for that matter) can't do swap deals on its own. juve were charged with one thing, and got sentenced for an other, this is ridiculously amateurish and insolent at the same time. the whole italian sports justice system is full of literal supporters of other clubs that hate juventus with a passion. and most importantly, the whole case shouldn't even have gone to trial: there's still no rulebook on how to evaluate a player
you don't have to be a pro-juve journalist to write about these things. you don't have to be an anti-juve journalist to ignore these. it's simply unprofessional and lazy. and as such, this approach becomes one sided.
the whole plusvalenza case stinks, and i know enough about it to say that it's nothing more than a political attack. many clubs do it, multiple clubs are on the stock market (one of the most common arguments is that juve is on the stock market so they deserve a special treatment lol), many clubs have shady deals, they aren't even investigated. juve (and any club for that matter) can't do swap deals on its own. juve were charged with one thing, and got sentenced for an other, this is ridiculously amateurish and insolent at the same time. the whole italian sports justice system is full of literal supporters of other clubs that hate juventus with a passion. and most importantly, the whole case shouldn't even have gone to trial: there's still no rulebook on how to evaluate a player
you don't have to be a pro-juve journalist to write about these things. you don't have to be an anti-juve journalist to ignore these. it's simply unprofessional and lazy. and as such, this approach becomes one sided.
