Blasi tested positive?! (1 Viewer)

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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#63
++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++

Clear enough? :)
So you hate Davids? Even though it's widely believed that he wasn't aware of the drugs?

I think it's unfair to go calling him a cheat, because we only know the part of the story that the media presents to us, which isn't enough.
 

vitoria_Ally

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Jul 14, 2002
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#64
Where did I use word HATE, that you asked me, do I hate him?
Dont put in my mouth words, which were never spoken by me please.
Second: where did I call him a cheat?

He failed drug tests, so he got suspend. What is so hard to get here? It's normal and fair procedure. And now they have to look at circumstances: why, how, where, how much etc.

I got one question on previous page to some of you about one thing: that apperently you know nothing about doping and how it works, so you try to explain/excuse positive results of doping tests in some incridible strange ways: food, antibiotics, some mysterious ingredients of medicines etc.

Positive result of doping test really doesnt come from the air, but I'm not going to make looooooooong lecture about that, sorry.
 

Ivy

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Jul 16, 2003
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#65
++ [ originally posted by GOAT ] ++
Yes, but bodies of proffesional athletes function a bit differently, isnt it possible that they do produce more than the limit?
GOAT........ yea... atheletes function differently from other people.......but

1. If a limit is to be set..... it wouldn't be fair to set it within the range that is humanly possible...... even if athelets produce it at higher levels naturally....... it's NATURALLY!!!!!!!!! How can you call it doping???

2. These rules, limits, tests...... are exactly for the pourpose of testing such athelets.....it made with them in mind. Someone must have made a huge boo boo if they could set the limit under this kind of levels.
 
Jul 12, 2002
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#67
++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++
Where did I use word HATE, that you asked me, do I hate him?
Dont put in my mouth words, which were never spoken by me please.
Second: where did I call him a cheat?

He failed drug tests, so he got suspend. What is so hard to get here? It's normal and fair procedure. And now they have to look at circumstances: why, how, where, how much etc.

I got one question on previous page to some of you about one thing: that apperently you know nothing about doping and how it works, so you try to explain/excuse positive results of doping tests in some incridible strange ways: food, antibiotics, some mysterious ingredients of medicines etc.

Positive result of doping test really doesnt come from the air, but I'm not going to make looooooooong lecture about that, sorry.
I hate to tell you this, but that positive test may very likely have come from something other than doping. It has been known to happen. That's why they do further tests, because the original one is not perfect.
 

vitoria_Ally

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Jul 14, 2002
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#68
You sound exactly like lawyer of such doping players/sportsmen ;) "positive test may very likely have come from something other than doping"
Actually it's very unlikely that positive result come from sth different, but since in science "nothing is impossible" (I hope in English this sentence has a sense, in Polish it has) they have to check it one more time, to be fair and make sure.
 
Jul 12, 2002
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#70
++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++
You sound exactly like lawyer of such doping players/sportsmen ;) "positive test may very likely have come from something other than doping"
I guess that would be my law degrees showing through....

++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++
Actually it's very unlikely that positive result come from sth different, but since in science "nothing is impossible" (I hope in English this sentence has a sense, in Polish it has) they have to check it one more time, to be fair and make sure.
I'm not sure that you understand what I was saying correctly. I was saying that there is a significant chance that Blasi did not dope. Granted, there is also a chance that he did, I think in these cases that he should be innocent until proven guilty, rather than the other way around...
 

vitoria_Ally

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Jul 14, 2002
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#72
++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++
I'm not sure that you understand what I was saying correctly. I was saying that there is a significant chance that Blasi did not dope. Granted, there is also a chance that he did...
Yes I understood you correctly and I didnt agree with you, as I dont agree now, cause I think otherwise than you.


I think in these cases that he should be innocent until proven guilty, rather than the other way around...
I agree with "be innocent until proven guilty", however the first test result was positive, so he is not that innocent.
But since there is second test, which prove or deny doping, and that's the final base to ban or presume his innocence - let's wait for this result.
 

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