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JuveJay

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Cronios wants an AM, despite there being absolutely no space for one in our current line up, so every point he makes is angled towards that.

Most of that post is garbage anyway, like Rincon's random VEN/COL agents can manipulate Juve...

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Wrong with what? Hard to be wrong in comparing how many times both players played for France.
I'm saying it's a possibility that your opinion on Matuidi and N'Zonzi is wrong, based on N'Zonzi having 0 France caps. Just throwing it out there...
 

Cronios

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I think you're confused. Matuidi is good at passing, he also has a good brain. You've gone and said all the opposite about him.
I haven't seen match of the French championship lately.
But in Europe and NT I see Matuidi hold the ball and winning the ball as a DM first and foremost, a successor to Makelele, more than passing the ball up-front.
Holding the ball is quite different than passing the ball, as it doesn't requires the vision and perception of a creative player.
If he can do it better than Khedira or Marchisio, then we are cool, he is the complete package!
 

Cronios

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Cronios wants an AM, despite there being absolutely no space for one in our current line up, so every point he makes is angled towards that.

Most of that post is garbage anyway, like Rincon's random VEN/COL agents can manipulate Juve...

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I'm saying it's a possibility that your opinion on Matuidi and N'Zonzi is wrong, based on N'Zonzi having 0 France caps. Just throwing it out there...
I refuse to believe that you are completely clueless from football.
You have seen the RM And Lazio lost finals.
You have seen our inability to push the ball forward from our midline.
You have been watching Juve long enough to know that Rincon was NEVER Juve material and could not become at this age!
You are just being a hater now...
 

PhRoZeN

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I haven't seen match of the French championship lately.
But in Europe and NT I see Matuidi hold the ball and winning the ball as a DM first and foremost, a successor to Makelele, more than passing the ball up-front.
Holding the ball is quite different than passing the ball, as it doesn't requires the vision and perception of a creative player.
If he can do it better than Khedira or Marchisio, then we are cool, he is the complete package!
He cant hold it as well as Marchisio but Khedira? absolutely.
 

Dujj

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Do you think its the FFP pressure, the fact that they want players to say we want to leave but at the same time cant decide who they want out?
PSG has to sell if they want to buy MBappé, so Matuidi was first in line.

As for who does leave or stay, PSG decides. They knew that Matuidi would choose to leave if they didn't show him the "affection" he wanted from them.

Every players they sold are ones that their board decided they will be sold. PSG don't care of players' will, and only see their contracts. Usually people dislike that because they don't understand why a club would force players to stay, but PSG is like that, bending over players is not an option.

So far they forced Verratti to stay, and to be frank, his performances are quite awful since then.
 

JuveJay

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I refuse to believe that you are completely clueless from football.
You have seen the RM And Lazio lost finals.
You have seen our inability to push the ball forward from our midline.
You have been watching Juve long enough to know that Rincon was NEVER Juve material and could not become at this age!
You are just being a hater now...
I'm probably just clueless.
 

PhRoZeN

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I refuse to believe that you are completely clueless from football.
You have seen the RM And Lazio lost finals.
You have seen our inability to push the ball forward from our midline.
You have been watching Juve long enough to know that Rincon was NEVER Juve material and could not become at this age!
You are just being a hater now...
You do know we got bullied in the middle of the park in both of them finals. Probably more so against Lazio than RM.
 

Stephan

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I refuse to believe that you are completely clueless from football.
You have seen the RM And Lazio lost finals.
You have seen our inability to push the ball forward from our midline.
You have been watching Juve long enough to know that Rincon was NEVER Juve material and could not become at this age!
You are just being a hater now...
Thought we lost it cause Bonucci switched sides HT.

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You do know we got bullied in the middle of the park in both of them finals. Probably more so against Lazio than RM.
We lost to Lazio for better Keita negotiations. :beppe2:
 

PhRoZeN

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PSG has to sell if they want to buy MBappé, so Matuidi was first in line.

As for who does leave or stay, PSG decides. They knew that Matuidi would choose to leave if they didn't show him the "affection" he wanted from them.

Every players they sold are ones that their board decided they will be sold. PSG don't care of players' will, and only see their contracts. Usually people dislike that because they don't understand why a club would force players to stay, but PSG is like that, bending over players is not an option.

So far they forced Verratti to stay, and to be frank, his performances are quite awful since then.
Yeah but they had players like Motta and Krychowiak, I bet PSG fans would have liked Matuidi to stay ahead of the latter atleast. I guess it was all about who came in for who.
 

Cronios

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I remember the days he used to crave for a LB, it was understandable. Im not sure what his obsession for an AM is though.
Just look at the two finals we lost and see how pathetic we are when we are trying to construct anything from the center of our midfield.
Zero end material and all we can do is pass the ball back and try from the wings.
Try to number how many times we managed to get a chance from the mid line, in comparison to the sides.
Look how pathetic our efforts are, every time we try the mid line.
See how the opponents react to our weakness and quickly hold our flanks too, completely shouting us down.
I want us to have tactical options! Higuain must get more than one pass every 30mins.
I want us to able to threaten the opposition from all lines, so they will be forced to scatter and create spaces, we could exploit.
I don't want us to look so pathetic every time we face strong opposition.
I believe a CAM would Make a world of a difference there!

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Thought we lost it cause Bonucci switched sides HT.

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We lost to Lazio for better Keita negotiations. :beppe2:
We were dramatically worse after the HT fight, but we were not as good as we could even before that.
And in Lazio, there was no Dalves and skinny legs and we still suffered from the same tactical issues.
 

PhRoZeN

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Just look at the two finals we lost and see how pathetic we are when we are trying to construct anything from the center of our midfield.
Zero end material and all we can do is pass the ball back and try from the wings.
Try to number how many times we managed to get a chance from the mid line, in comparison to the sides.
Look how pathetic our efforts are, every time we try the mid line.
See how the opponents react to our weakness and quickly hold our flanks too, completely shouting us down.
I want us to have tactical options! Higuain must get more than one pass every 30mins.
I want us to able to threaten the opposition from all lines, so they will be forced to scatter and create spaces, we could exploit.
I don't want us to look so pathetic every time we face strong opposition.
I believe a CAM would Make a world of a difference there!
You're seeing it from an attacking perspective, but what about the defensive side? I.e when we need to win the ball from a great team like RM or press the Lazio side and impose ourselves.
 

Dujj

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I won't quote that many people, but Matuidi is good at passing.

That's controlling the ball he has problems with.

But if Juve wants him, that's because when he faces teams like Real, he doesn't chicken, and can stop attacks from minute 1 to 90.

As it is said above, Juve lost against RM because the midfield was bullied + an inability to keep defending, and pressing in second half. Juve won't have this problem with Matuidi.

When you look at a team like Juve, you know you won't have the ball as much as clubs like RM or Barcelona when you face those. The point is defending + counter attacking.

Matuidi is excellent at stealing balls, can run fast, can defend 90 minutes.

I know it's useless because people will continue to badmouth him till he proves his worth here, but while he has bad qualities, he has also very good ones that Juve desesperately needs in big games.

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Yeah but they had players like Motta and Krychowiak, I bet PSG fans would have liked Matuidi to stay ahead of the latter atleast. I guess it was all about who came in for who.
You're right. They wanted Motta to leave, and so far they were right. Motta is like a dead weight when on the field.

But not the first time PSG does stupid things right?
 

PhRoZeN

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You're right. They wanted Motta to leave, and so far they were right. Motta is like a dead weight when on the field.

But not the first time PSG does stupid things right?
Seems instinctive. Like the rich president, i want him, i want him. do it

Juve want him? Do it

Definetly a do it person.
 
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