Belgium bombings 22-Mar-2016 (4 Viewers)

[Lapa]

Can't really stand 'hate religion' topic being mixed with every single bad event. No soap opera, I have it enough at work. RUS thread banned.

Ban me too from this thread before I even start.

 

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[MikeM]

I wish it was possible for the rest of the world to completely divorce itself from the situations of the middle-east. Let them figure it out themselves.

Hopefully technology can help spread education in those parts of the world and they can alter their religion themselves just like how other religions have been altered in the past (Christianity).

The divide between ALL muslims and ALL the other people of the world is becoming bigger and bigger as we go. That's a very bad thing.

 

[campionesidd]

I wish it was possible for the rest of the world to completely divorce itself from the situations of the middle-east. Let them figure it out themselves.

Hopefully technology can help spread education in those parts of the world and they can alter their religion themselves just like how other religions have been altered in the past (Christianity).

The divide between ALL muslims and ALL the other people of the world is becoming bigger and bigger as we go. That's a very bad thing.

Yeah, It feels like the Babylonians and ancient Egyptians were more civilized than the people who live there today.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

i work at the airport and had to work at 12 today. waiting to get news of my collegues. so stressful & so sad

I'm so sorry, I hope they're ok. Stay safe over there.

 

[Fake Melo]

Really glad our Belgium friends on this forum are fine. I am thinking about you guys, stay safe and strong.

 

[Hist]

First maybe stop letting anyone in. The most crazy thing merkel did was to invite all them in without checking anyone. A very sad day.

Though how fucked up can you be to do such things

There is no shortage of radical or radicalizable muslims on the inside. If anything, most of the organization of the attacks is done by guys on the inside who know the country well and not some guy who has never been there before. The newcomers might bring some small pieces of equipment maybe or information/orders or very small sized weaponry but not much else. They can also sacrifice themselves ofcourse.

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I do hope our political leaders dont take this tragedy to score easy points.

This is the moment to hold firm, and not alienate the large muslim community whom has nothing to do with radicalism.



Meanwhile, some youth was harassing police in zaventem today, and both police and newsreporters in molenbeek when they caught Salah.

Work to be done.

who is also better than cuadrado

 

[Ronn]

Yes, muslims have a harder time integrating than other groups. I believe this has not neccessarily to do with the muslim nature (although religion might have its influence) but with their numbers. They arrive, settle in a poverty district, find out that their neighbours are arabs, along with the grocery store owner, 3 mosques around, can go chat in a tea shop, no need to adapt. Italians or Russians arrive, settle in the same district, yet they don't understand arab grocery guy and don't become friends with arab neighbours. They will strive to adapt into the country faster to get out of there.

Isn't this the same with Chinese and Koreans?

 

[Kopanja]

Isn't this the same with Chinese and Koreans?

It depends on if there "arabian, chinese, korean, russian etc." district. I have couple of relatives who left Soviet Union and settled in USA ages ago and one of them still doesn't speak English almost at all. They settled in a Russian district, watch Russian TV etc, nothing forces them to adapt.

 

[Marty]

Woke up to this terrible news. Glad all you guys are fine, was a bit worried about Zacheryah for a while but happy to see his reply.

 

[delrey]

What's Belgium got to do with it?

My condolences to the families. People there should not blame muslims, but their government.
Whatever poor country NATO wants to bomb, Belgium is first to sing in

 

[Ronn]

It depends on if there "arabian, chinese, korean, russian etc." district. I have couple of relatives who left Soviet Union and settled in USA ages ago and one of them still doesn't speak English almost at all. They settled in a Russian district, watch Russian TV etc, nothing forces them to adapt.

At least for Chinese, there's always such district. Even if there is not, they make sure to stay in touch with only each other mostly. My point was this disintegration does not necessarily result in hostility. Or at least it shouldn't.

 

[Kopanja]

At least for Chinese, there's always such district. Even if there is not, they make sure to stay in touch with only each other mostly. My point was this disintegration does not necessarily result in hostility. Or at least it shouldn't.

+1
Totally agree. I don't see a direct correlation between disintegration and hostility. For some reason it occurs only in special cases.

 

[Ronn]

My condolences to the families. People there should not blame muslims, but their government.
Whatever poor country NATO wants to bomb, Belgium is first to sing in

They are first on Nato's alphabetic list

 

[Raz]

There is no shortage of radical or radicalizable muslims on the inside. If anything, most of the organization of the attacks is done by guys on the inside who know the country well and not some guy who has never been there before. The newcomers might bring some small pieces of equipment maybe or information/orders or very small sized weaponry but not much else. They can also sacrifice themselves ofcourse.

The place they are coming from are a beehive full of terrorist. They can import trained specialists, intelligence guys or whatever recruiters or who knows what from that place...

I'm not saying most are terrorists there, in fact I think big majority are not, but majority in that are leeches that are looking for free givaaways. But my point is screen the shit them before letting in, they are coming from a biggest hotspot of terrorism on planet earth, so to think that from over a million there might be quite a few retards that want to train someone to blow up or do it themself is not such a far fetched theory.

 

[lgorTudor]

Isn't this the same with Chinese and Koreans?

Probably but in Europe it's mostly muslims who live next to the society rather than within the society. And that's where the terrorist recruiters grab them. It's a matter of poor integration and my point is that if your government can't secure sufficient distribution of immigrants throughout the country instead of stacking them in poverty hotspots immigration should be closed in the first place. Oversaturation hindering intergration.

 

[Ronn]

Probably but in Europe it's mostly muslims who live next to the society rather than within the society. And that's where the terrorist recruiters grab them. It's a matter of poor integration and my point is that if your government can't secure sufficient distribution of immigrants throughout the country instead of stacking them in poverty hotspots immigration should be closed in the first place. Oversaturation

I'm not sure it's resolved with distribution though. That disintegration seems to be cultural, and I think both cultures are partly to blame.

 

[Zacheryah]

Probably but in Europe it's mostly muslims who live next to the society rather than within the society. And that's where the terrorist recruiters grab them. It's a matter of poor integration and my point is that if your government can't secure sufficient distribution of immigrants throughout the country instead of stacking them in poverty hotspots immigration should be closed in the first place. Oversaturation hindering intergration.

Yeah, but we had the socialist party on migration since forever, and they are all like "open it wide and let everything in"


No. Immigration is fine, no problem. But you need to be able to integrate these people into your society. color and religion doesnt matter. Beeing able to communicate and interact with eachother. Beeing able to become a part of the community, talk a common language and be able to have a proper education.

Its the goverments responsibility to not just open the floodgates. That is easy. No, proper integration. Takes alot of efford.

 

[Raz]

I'm not sure it's resolved with distribution though. That disintegration seems to be cultural, and I think both cultures are partly to blame.

Of course both, but letting so many in is like trying to repair a wooden house while it is still on fire.

 

[Ronn]

The place they are coming from are a beehive full of terrorist. They can import trained specialists, intelligence guys or whatever recruiters or who knows what from that place...

I'm not saying most are terrorists there, in fact I think big majority are not, but majority in that are leeches that are looking for free givaaways. But my point is screen the $#@! them before letting in, they are coming from a biggest hotspot of terrorism on planet earth, so to think that from over a million there might be quite a few retards that want to train someone to blow up or do it themself is not such a far fetched theory.

How? Most of Syria's land is not run by any state. And without any state that can provide credible background information, It's impossible.

 

[Raz]

How? Most of Syria's land is not run by any state. And without any state that can provide credible background information, It's impossible.

Well then the answer is obvious then.