And you know this based on what exactly? A sample size of one, maybe two games? FFS!
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Spinazzola is not on the bench. Felipe or Acerbi dont matter fuck all. Especially another desperate Oriundi. Already mentioned Barella and Calabria should play, and I dont rate Raspadori as someone worth lamenting about. Not that I like Politano, but he also looked good in the level of team Raspadori is in now.
There's not much of any exciting new faces called up in current squad.
So yeah I don't get this complaining for the sake of complaining. The quality in current Italian players aren't that wide apart from eachother, so this rejuvenation will take time and with rotation experimenting with what's available (Mancini policy is basically call up anyone with Italian passport).
Which will happen sspecially since nations league is not a real competition (lazzarri and zacagni dropped out to go to early vacation lol), its basically structured friendlies. I am going live to Sweden vs Norway tommorrow, and I dont care they call it nations league, its a glorified friendly.
P.S dont get why you group Berardi with old timers immobile and jorginho. He performs when given the opportunity and deserves his spot in the team.
There's not much of any exciting new faces called up in current squad.
So yeah I don't get this complaining for the sake of complaining. The quality in current Italian players aren't that wide apart from eachother, so this rejuvenation will take time and with rotation experimenting with what's available (Mancini policy is basically call up anyone with Italian passport).
Which will happen sspecially since nations league is not a real competition (lazzarri and zacagni dropped out to go to early vacation lol), its basically structured friendlies. I am going live to Sweden vs Norway tommorrow, and I dont care they call it nations league, its a glorified friendly.
P.S dont get why you group Berardi with old timers immobile and jorginho. He performs when given the opportunity and deserves his spot in the team.
I am not bitching about a one off game or saying Raspadori is THAT much better than Politano. Simply saying that if you want to overhaul this team (which obviously needs to be done) playing players who have no future over young guys who will at least show something more in terms of enthusiasm and fight is going in the right way. Or at least stop blaming others for not playing young players when you don't do it either.
What rejuvenation lmao? Not only is he playing worse players than vs Argentina, he is also playing older players than vs Argentina
And not even going to touch the Berardi thing. Useless player above the level of Sassuolo.
What rejuvenation lmao? Not only is he playing worse players than vs Argentina, he is also playing older players than vs Argentina
And not even going to touch the Berardi thing. Useless player above the level of Sassuolo.
And I genuinely do not care about Italy unless there are important Juventus players playing. This whole thing started when I laughed at Mancini's hypocrisy about young players and @Gigiventus said wholesale changes were coming after the Argentina game which low and behold did not come and won't come as Mancini will continue playing the same players during the next qualification cycle.
As far as I'm concerned unless Chiesa and Locatelli aren't playing he can continue doing whatever he wants, I was replying to a specific person here
As far as I'm concerned unless Chiesa and Locatelli aren't playing he can continue doing whatever he wants, I was replying to a specific person here
Tonali, Frattesi and Scamacca are the players he's testing here. I don't think there will be such a massive overhaul of the squad, just some tweaks here and there replacing some of the older players. Bonucci, Verratti, Barella, Chiesa, Donnarumma and Bastoni will form the spine of the team at the next Euros most likely. Then in mid you have space for one out of Loca/Tonali/Jorginho?. In attack it could still well be Immobile unless one of the younger guys develops (Raspa/Scamacca).
Saying wholesale changes are needed is easy to say. But to what, to who? Italy does not have luxury of much quality options. He calls up Serie B players and players in Swiss league...
And anyways, not sure if you watching this game. But this down graded 11 are playing better then the regular 11 that played vs Argentina.
Scamacca is extremely good at build up and general play. Just need to do this thing called scoring too...But unlikely to be useless on the pitch if he isnt scoring like Immobile.
And anyways, not sure if you watching this game. But this down graded 11 are playing better then the regular 11 that played vs Argentina.
Scamacca is extremely good at build up and general play. Just need to do this thing called scoring too...But unlikely to be useless on the pitch if he isnt scoring like Immobile.
Italy doesn't have the talent pool to make wholesale changes. Imo panicking and excluding players just for the sake of it wouldn't be the smartest thing to do right now. Italy is in a desperate need of a world class scorer, otherwise the team isn't in that bad of a shape. Bastoni replaces Chiello, Loca/Tonali replaces Jorginho, Berardi/Pellegrini/Raspadori/Zaniolo replaces Insigne. The problem is who replaces/is an upgrade over Immobile?
But we keep going in circles and you keep referring to things I never said.
This whole thing started when I laughed at Mancini before Argentina game because he called out Serie A clubs for not promoting youngsters more and he played that older 11 vs Argentina. Gigiventus then replied to me and said that was their last game and big changes are coming and a new cycle is opening after that game. I said I will believe it when I see it and we're seeing what kind of 11 he put out tonight and we'll see who's going to play when Euro qualis start again.
I am not writing any of this to discuss Italy's future and what needs to be done etc. Just made fun of Mancini for his hypocrisy, another user claimed a new cycle is opening and that's it. Couldn't care less what happens to them if there aren't important Juve players in the squad, but if I was in charge of a nation that just got embarrassed as Italy did I wouldn't touch the old farts with a 10 foot pole anymore, let alone lecture others on youngsters.
This whole thing started when I laughed at Mancini before Argentina game because he called out Serie A clubs for not promoting youngsters more and he played that older 11 vs Argentina. Gigiventus then replied to me and said that was their last game and big changes are coming and a new cycle is opening after that game. I said I will believe it when I see it and we're seeing what kind of 11 he put out tonight and we'll see who's going to play when Euro qualis start again.
I am not writing any of this to discuss Italy's future and what needs to be done etc. Just made fun of Mancini for his hypocrisy, another user claimed a new cycle is opening and that's it. Couldn't care less what happens to them if there aren't important Juve players in the squad, but if I was in charge of a nation that just got embarrassed as Italy did I wouldn't touch the old farts with a 10 foot pole anymore, let alone lecture others on youngsters.
Yes, and that's the wholesale changes I am talking about. Eliminating every single one of the mediocre mid-table players (and Jorginho who is clearly over the hill now) with the guys you mentioned. The thing is I am skeptical of that because why play Politanos and Acerbis of the world in a glorified friendly over experimenting with some youngsters. Why lecture others on youngsters if you keep playing the same guys? I don't think he has the balls to dump Jorginho, Insigne, Berardi and Immobile completely.
And just as I say that Gnonto does more in 5 minutes than Politano did in his entire Italy career.
And just as I say that Gnonto does more in 5 minutes than Politano did in his entire Italy career.