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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Let's make avatar/sig bet on who gets sold first. I'm so confident that Pogs will be sold first that I'm willing to double my odds of loosing and saying he'd be sold before Hummels AND Reus.
not necessary. but as i were saying during summer that Reus stayed there because he wanted to give the new coach and his hometown club a chance and see how this new project will go, and seeing as Dortmund is doing great so far this season, there is a high chance both Reus and Pogba will stay another season. so what then?
 

JuveID

Allegri and Beppe Mania
Feb 5, 2015
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Juventus just sold one top player and it was vidal.
Lewandowski for free is good move?
You would not call it was good move if it was done by marotta.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Juventus just sold one top player and it was vidal.
Lewandowski for free is good move?
You would not call it was good move if it was done by marotta.
Lewandowski for free to your direct rivals. It's like Pogba for free to Roma.

And of course people will say their management had their hands tied. And they would be right. But at the same time Marotta had his hands tied with Tevez and Vidal.

And Vidal IMO is past his peak. I don't think we'll see his form from 2 years ago ever again and it's possible in a year's time the 40M we got for him might look like a stroke of luck.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Buffon
Neto
Lichtsteiner Bonucci Chiellini Evra
Vrsaljko Barzagli/Caceres Rugani Sandro/Asa
Khedira Marchisio Pogba
Tielmans Lamina Sturaro/Pereyra
Dybala Morata Berardi
Cuadrado Mandzukic/Zaza Embolo​
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
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Actually, Dortmund made an effort to sell Robert, but he wouldn't go anywhere but Bayern, same deal with Gotze. He wouldn't look at anyone but Dortmund. Before that Gotze had many suitors for sure, not sure about Lewy though, regardless one thing for sure is that Dortmund's management isn't like ours that is willing to so casually let go of their top players because they feel like it lol.
Our mgmt didn't willingly sell our top players, lol.

Vidal wanted to leave. Tevez wanted to leave. Coman wasn't a top player, but he too wanted to leave.
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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Who earns the most in the sale if both get sold.(second part, your username.)
I'd put my money on Pogs being sold for under 50 and Reus over 50. Simply due to the gulf of difference in will power and negotiation skills when it comes to selling.
You're going to lose.

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Buffon
Neto
Lichtsteiner Bonucci Chiellini Evra
Vrsaljko Barzagli/Caceres Rugani Sandro/Asa
Khedira Marchisio Pogba
Tielmans Lamina Sturaro/Pereyra
Dybala Morata Berardi
Cuadrado Mandzukic/Zaza Embolo​
I don't believe I've ever seen Berardi play on the right. But a christmas tree with Berardi, Morata and Dybala would be immense in 2 years if not even now.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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You're going to lose.

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I don't believe I've ever seen Berardi play on the right. But a christmas tree with Berardi, Morata and Dybala would be immense in 2 years if not even now.
berardi predominantly plays on the right. but i put him on the left almost like a reus/griezmann role where he can score more goals.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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So he naturally goes to the right cause that suits him, so you put him on the other side so he'll become better ?
he dosen't "naturally" go to the right. he is just placed there. i rather have dybala on the right similar to the messi role at barca with berardi on the left similar to griezmann of atletico madrid. they could easily swap position without a big deal.....
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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I'm not gonna argue with a half-witted old fool that argues and thinks like a child.

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Let's make a bet.

Who sells first. Juve or Dortmund. Pogs or Reus.
That's the first part of the bet. (avatar)

Who earns the most in the sale if both get sold.(second part, your username.)
I'd put my money on Pogs being sold for under 50 and Reus over 50. Simply due to the gulf of difference in will power and negotiation skills when it comes to selling.
Missed this gem before. Lets make a bet because it'll be easy free $ for me (has to be $, not username because I don't post here often enough to care). I'll even give you better odds.

You're right about Reus though. Ridiculous to think he'll be sold for 40 in today's highly inflated market. And Reus is in love with Dortmund. Wanted to move there, wants to stay there.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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I'm not gonna argue with a half-witted old fool that argues and thinks like a child.

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Let's make a bet.

Who sells first. Juve or Dortmund. Pogs or Reus.
That's the first part of the bet. (avatar)

Who earns the most in the sale if both get sold.(second part, your username.)
I'd put my money on Pogs being sold for under 50 and Reus over 50. Simply due to the gulf of difference in will power and negotiation skills when it comes to selling.
Seriously, stop with this bullshit.

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I actually respect what Dortmund have done with Lewandowski. It shows character and conviction. They get lowballed by Bayern, player wants no one but bayern, they make him finish of his contract rather than getting disrespected and hustled.

However the way our spineless management conducted Vidal's sale, absolutely ridiculous, the man receives a phone call at home, in Chile, during his vacation, to be told he's going to Bayern. And zizi is telling me he only wanted bayern :lol:

Or should we talk about that brave risk we took by buying Zaza while ensuring that Sassuolo can sell berardi to whomever they please :lol:

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Morata and Pogba are more likely to be sold, then Hummels is buddy.
Imagine what you and (a few others on here) would have said if we gifted Pogba and/or Vidal to our direct rivals for free :lol:

I don't know what you are trying to prove with these posts - but they are extremely annoying and pointless.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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he dosen't "naturally" go to the right. he is just placed there. i rather have dybala on the right similar to the messi role at barca with berardi on the left similar to griezmann of atletico madrid. they could easily swap position without a big deal.....
We had this talk of the basics before. But a inside forward / cutting in winger needs to play on the side where he can penetrate with his favourite foot. So Berardi playing in right is the ideal since he is left footed, like Robben, Messi etc.

Non of them are threats when they play on the left because they become predictable and mainly limited to crossing /passing sideways, easy to read their intention and close down.


Griezmann is right footed so he prefers the left.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Juventus just sold one top player and it was vidal.
Lewandowski for free is good move?
You would not call it was good move if it was done by marotta.
Lewandowski was in last year of contract. They refused to sell him to Bayern and he decided to see out his contract giving everything on the pitch for dortmund in the time being. Vidal had years on his contract, came off a bad season. Vidal had no leverage Juve did.
 

JuveID

Allegri and Beppe Mania
Feb 5, 2015
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Lewandowski was in last year of contract. They refused to sell him to Bayern and he decided to see out his contract giving everything on the pitch for dortmund in the time being. Vidal had years on his contract, came off a bad season. Vidal had no leverage Juve did.
Why did not dortmund freeze him like bilbao did with llorente?
They gave lewandowski in best version to their biggest rival.
Do you agree with that?

Vidal contract with juve was running till 2017.

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You can see in this link.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...o-vidal-agrees-contract-extension-at-juventus

Or you can check in juventus.com

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We had this talk of the basics before. But a inside forward / cutting in winger needs to play on the side where he can penetrate with his favourite foot. So Berardi playing in right is the ideal since he is left footed, like Robben, Messi etc.

Non of them are threats when they play on the left because they become predictable and mainly limited to crossing /passing sideways, easy to read their intention and close down.


Griezmann is right footed so he prefers the left.
Is griezmann right footed?
I doubt it.
 
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