Atomic Winter mercato 2016 (27 Viewers)

[YougmanRumble]

DiMarzio on CalcioMercato:

- Allison going to Roma in June for 7m
- Juve could help Palermo land Sensi to control both players compared to Verratti
- Juve could make an 11m bid for Mkhitaryan in the summer if BVB fails to extend (contract expires in 2017)
- Mandragora would cost 6-7m

 

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[kao_ray]

I don't know what is more fruitless. The discussions here or our winter mercato.

 

[Zacheryah]

From my time here, I learned that the less you read Zach's posts, the better it is for your mental health.

Gundogan will be tough but not impossible to sign. He isn't a top-20 or such player in the world. Those we can't sign. But need to move and wrap Gundogan early (which is exactly what Marotta and Paratici are trying to do), like by March like we did with Dybala. With Gundogan it's even more imperative of course. Come season's end when other top club's start their mercato wheeling and dealing, it'll be tougher.

We usually get the best out of players, so Fabregas would be a great signing.

Oscar would be a meh signing. Moutinho would be another meh one.

Isco of course would be an amazing signing.

If Pogba leaves (decent chance of that happening of course), then I wouldn't be surprised if we sign two of the attacking CM types. One as mezzala aka Pogba's replacement, the other for the AM role. Allegri likes this almost CM type AMs who can defend. Plus, the player would be able to start in a 352 when we play that tactic whereas a genuine AM would sit on the bench.

Interesting. As always you take a chance to insult me, but without sufficient reason, and there isnt even one here.
You take sides, always the other one, even when the argument is most clear.


I state gundogan is exceptional class. You call him a more impressive capture then dybala

I called fabregas and isco high class, you confirm it.


I said we cant realistically think about them because competition will outbid us, a certain reality, but you didnt discuss that.


Basically, you insult me, and then say things I mostly agree with, I just rate gundogan higher

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Go ahead pavluska

Both manchester teams, chelsea and liverpool want either isco or gundogan.


Tell me how exactly well make him come on lower wages, to a competition both arent rating, over wealth and false rep of the EPL.


These are my points. We cant get them.


I understand that many dont see why gundogan is such value. (On tuz that is).

But the point is we cant get them, that epl is over them allready. Id like to know how we can overcome this.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

Another day lost, another gay post.

Liverpool and Chelsea will buy the world and win the Intertoto Cup afterwards! We just can't compete...

Gundogan, Isco, Fabregas those are the untouchable names of these days. That's why Manchester United is going after Neymar... they are not completely insane to try for Gundogan!

 

[Klin]

World class isnt the same as "best in the world".


Xavi was significantly past his prime and decaying when Rakitic took over. Rakitic is lightyears away from how good Xavi was during his prime.

Gundogan is better then reus this season, and more important. Reus can improve a great deal tho. Offcourse, you only rate players by goals and assists, and not their impact.

Isco is a top 3 primadonna am. We cant sign him because there is too much competition. if he leaves madrid in the first place.



We can discuss how good we think these 3 players are. But its clear we cant beat competition for any

What makes this argument even funnier is that Zach admitted he hasn't watched a single Dortmund game this season.

Why this torture Klin. What did i do

Whatever makes you post more.

wherever he is - i am almost sure franco nero is crying.

you proud of your maltese Fam @Klin?

He's like a Django on crack.

From my time here, I learned that the less you read Zach's posts, the better it is for your mental health.

Gundogan will be tough but not impossible to sign. He isn't a top-20 or such player in the world. Those we can't sign. But need to move and wrap Gundogan early (which is exactly what Marotta and Paratici are trying to do), like by March like we did with Dybala. With Gundogan it's even more imperative of course. Come season's end when other top club's start their mercato wheeling and dealing, it'll be tougher.

We usually get the best out of players, so Fabregas would be a great signing.

Oscar would be a meh signing. Moutinho would be another meh one.

Isco of course would be an amazing signing.

If Pogba leaves (decent chance of that happening of course), then I wouldn't be surprised if we sign two of the attacking CM types. One as mezzala aka Pogba's replacement, the other for the AM role. Allegri likes this almost CM type AMs who can defend. Plus, the player would be able to start in a 352 when we play that tactic whereas a genuine AM would sit on the bench.

 

[Zacheryah]

I know gundogan, seen plenty of him pre-injury. He's back to his previous form, various sources confirm this.

Reus on the other hand, isnt as good as he can be. Dortmund is depending on aubameyang for their final third. It used to be different.


As it stands, both his agent and club will refuse a sale now, so he can attract more attention and convince liverpool and united of his return. We simply have no chance.


Anyone can pick my avatar for 6 months if we get him.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

What happened with FFP btw? Are they suspended or are they still active and is there a UEFA web site where you can follow team's performance?

Now that Zizou is in Madrid, Hazard might arrive... This transfer market I hope will get bonkers.

PS: Maybe FFP can't be properly implemented since the leading part of UEFA bureaucracy is suspended/investigated/jailed?

 

[Hist]

I know gundogan, seen plenty of him pre-injury. He's back to his previous form, various sources confirm this.

Reus on the other hand, isnt as good as he can be. Dortmund is depending on aubameyang for their final third. It used to be different.


As it stands, both his agent and club will refuse a sale now, so he can attract more attention and convince liverpool and united of his return. We simply have no chance.


Anyone can pick my avatar for 6 months if we get him.

If you don't watch Dortmund then all you have to go by is stats and player ratings. In which case Aubemayang is by far their best attacker and Mikhitarian is their best midfielder. This is reflected both in MOM performances and average ratings.
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/28421

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/77464/

 

[Klin]

 

[Nostradamus]

I know gundogan, seen plenty of him pre-injury. He's back to his previous form, various sources confirm this.

Reus on the other hand, isnt as good as he can be. Dortmund is depending on aubameyang for their final third. It used to be different.


As it stands, both his agent and club will refuse a sale now, so he can attract more attention and convince liverpool and united of his return. We simply have no chance.

Anyone can pick my avatar for 6 months if we get him.

The only thing I disagree with is, that Gündogan is not back to his previous form. He is very good and having Weigl behind him definitely helps, but he still hasnt reached his peak 2013 pre injury form IMO. He ll get tons of offers though and it ll be tough to get him even for a club like Bayern. If Barca or Real come knocking, then he ll go there, as Spain has been his favourite destination. I guess Bayern and Juve would offer him around 5m net and that is just slightly more than Dortmund could offer him and I m not sure, if that is enough to compete with England, where prob a club ll become desperate again.

If you don't watch Dortmund then all you have to go by is stats and player ratings. In which case Aubemayang is by far their best attacker and Mikhitarian is their best midfielder. This is reflected both in MOM performances and average ratings.
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/28421

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/77464/

They r the two standouts this season, no doubt about that. Also special mention to Weigl, who has been one of the best newcomers with huge impact. Reus started terrible into the season and became better at the end of the year.

 

[Valerio.]

The only thing I disagree with is, that Gündogan is not back to his previous form. He is very good and having Weigl behind him definitely helps, but he still hasnt reached his peak 2013 pre injury form IMO. He ll get tons of offers though and it ll be tough to get him even for a club like Bayern. If Barca or Real come knocking, then he ll go there, as Spain has been his favourite destination. I guess Bayern and Juve would offer him around 5m net and that is just slightly more than Dortmund could offer him and I m not sure, if that is enough to compete with England, where prob a club ll become desperate again.


They r the two standouts this season, no doubt about that. Also special mention to Weigl, who has been one of the best newcomers with huge impact. Reus started terrible into the season and became better at the end of the year.

Hey do you think Granit Xhaka is viable for us or not?
i'd rather have him than Gundogan or Mkhitaryan

 

[TheTruth]

"GUNDOGAN NOT KEEN ON JUVE

Borussia Dortmund midfielder Ilkay Gundogan is not keen on a move to Juventus, according to Bild.

Despite wanting to win major titles, Gundogan reportedly does not want to play for Italy's most successful club, as he is happy in Germany.

"I read the reports [of an offer] with great interest," said Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc, when asked about reports that Juventus had made an offer for Gündogan.

"But, I don't comment on every rumour."

According to Gazzetta dello Sport, a €30m (£22m) bid has already been rejected by Dortmund, but an improved offer will be placed. "

 

[Zacheryah]

The only thing I disagree with is, that Gündogan is not back to his previous form. He is very good and having Weigl behind him definitely helps, but he still hasnt reached his peak 2013 pre injury form IMO. He ll get tons of offers though and it ll be tough to get him even for a club like Bayern. If Barca or Real come knocking, then he ll go there, as Spain has been his favourite destination. I guess Bayern and Juve would offer him around 5m net and that is just slightly more than Dortmund could offer him and I m not sure, if that is enough to compete with England, where prob a club ll become desperate again.


They r the two standouts this season, no doubt about that. Also special mention to Weigl, who has been one of the best newcomers with huge impact. Reus started terrible into the season and became better at the end of the year.

Seems I did my homework right
Considering the weaker lineup id say he has in key aspects, anf could explode in a better team.

No way the richer teams will pass on this gem

 

[Suns]

"GUNDOGAN NOT KEEN ON JUVE

Borussia Dortmund midfielder Ilkay Gundogan is not keen on a move to Juventus, according to Bild.

Despite wanting to win major titles, Gundogan reportedly does not want to play for Italy's most successful club, as he is happy in Germany.

"I read the reports [of an offer] with great interest," said Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc, when asked about reports that Juventus had made an offer for Gündogan.

"But, I don't comment on every rumour."

According to Gazzetta dello Sport, a €30m (£22m) bid has already been rejected by Dortmund, but an improved offer will be placed. "

German newspapers and their hate for Serie A

It's like they're being run by Nostradamus.

Anyway, I do think we should stay away from Germany. I would look more towards EPL and Spain instead. I think there are a lot more Tevez type of player out there that would shine in our environment. I honestly see Cesc playing some of his best football if he signed for us.

 

[DAiDEViL]

i swear you are only doing this to annoy Zach.

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German newspapers and their hate for Serie A

It's like they're being run by Nostradamus.

last summer we found out Nostradamus = Horst Heldt.

 

[Osman]

Nope it might suprise you, but some people actually make sense around here, agreed with the dude, well reasoned post.

 

[Hust]

So Gundogan is pretty much not going to happen as most of us already knew. I haven't heard anything from Cesc, what's the story with him and the rumors from a few days ago? Probably the same as Gundogan.

I'm liking these youth moves though with Sensi and the other guy with the interesting name.

 

[Seven]

So Gundogan is pretty much not going to happen as most of us already knew. I haven't heard anything from Cesc, what's the story with him and the rumors from a few days ago? Probably the same as Gundogan.

I'm liking these youth moves though with Sensi and the other guy with the interesting name.

Cesc is 28, which on this forum means he's one step away from the grave. Why the fuck would we consider buying a corpse? I bet you'd like that huh, you fucking necrophiliac.

 

[KB824]

I don't know what is more fruitless. The discussions here or our winter mercato.

There are three and a half more weeks of this.


Enjoy.

 

[Nostradamus]

Hey do you think Granit Xhaka is viable for us or not?
i'd rather have him than Gundogan or Mkhitaryan

He has a buyout clause for 2017 for 30m and Gladbach have been lucky, that no big club showed genuine interest before he signed the extension last year. Bayern showed interest after that and Eberl made it clear to them, that there is no chance in the near future and that he is not for sell. He is impossible to get this winter and I m not sure, if there is a chance to get him next summer. Eberl is tough to deal with and the opposite of a pushover. One thing is clear, the amount must be considerable higher than that 30m€.

I think that Bayern r still very interested in him and want him to be the Alonso successor, but the 1 year extension of him makes it unlikely, that they ll go for Xhaka next summer. Maybe Bayern know more that he isnt gettable next summer? Then u also have to compete with the usual EPL clubs, who have also showed interest. It ll be again a tough fight to get this fella.