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Arturo Vidal is potentially smart business from Juventus, but, as Rob Paton asks, are they setting him up to be Felipe Melo part two?

Arturo Vidal is a dynamic footballer, inasmuch as he is capable of not only having the tactical and technical proficiency to take either defensive or attacking roles within a team, but the attributes to perform consistently in either role too.

With the national team, former Coach Marcelo Bielsa relied heavily upon his defensive reading of the game to take a wing-back-cum-midfielder position that demanded consistent cover for the defence as well as assuredness when in possession.

In contrast to this was his recent switch in the Bundesliga to an attacking midfield position with Bayer Leverkusen. Deployed either in central midfield with licence to break forward, or behind a single striker in a 4-4-1-1, Vidal not only technically adapted, but returned 10 goals and 11 assists in 2010-11.

Indeed, the success displayed in two separate positions was echoed in the different roles the sides chasing him had in mind. Arsenal’s rumoured interest was for Vidal the attacking midfielder, touted as a replacement for Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri. However, in securing the 24-year-old for a cut-price €10.5m plus add-ons – Leverkusen paid Colo Colo €11m four years ago – Juventus have protecting Andrea Pirlo in the middle of the park in mind. Bayern Munich had also earmarked a defensive midfield role for him.

Critically now, placing Vidal with such a task in Turin opens up comparisons with Felipe Melo, who the club have just shipped out on loan to Galatasaray. On the face of it, the Bianconeri are releasing a player who has just proven proficient in shadowing a deep-laying regista last term, and who ably moderated a previously reckless side to his game – Melo picked up eight yellows and one red from 36 appearances compared with 26 and five from the previous two seasons.

Whilst not a singular defining aspect to a player’s capacity as a defensive midfielder, the improvement from Melo was significant, and to an area of his game heavily criticised. Intriguingly, it is now a similar challenge facing Vidal. Also dropping from very high carded numbers to just a handful – five yellow and one red from 33 played – Vidal will have to re-apply this more cautious approach in a new League and, significantly, back in a destructive role he was not playing last term.

From 2008 to 2010, when both Vidal and Melo were in consistent defensive-midfield roles in Germany and Italy respectively, Vidal earned 27 yellows to Melo’s 26. However, Melo averaged a yellow card every 4.9 fouls in Italy, where Vidal was booked after every 6.1 fouls. In short, fouls from defensive midfield were penalised a lot sooner in Serie A. In this same period, Roma’s Daniele De Rossi received a yellow every 3.4 fouls, Bayern’s Mark Van Bommel every 6.8 fouls. Vidal also committed in this two-year period more fouls than Melo, and just 13 fewer than Van Bommel.

Indeed, with the assumption that Vidal’s main task will be to shield Pirlo as Gennaro Gattuso has, there is a slight risk that by piling on all the defensive-midfield duties on to Vidal, that Juventus are exposing him to the same criticism that was levied at Melo.

Vidal is a more capable, complete footballer, but he still has a reputation for an over-exuberance in trying to win back possession. If his main task is to support the higher-earning, defensively-inept Pirlo, and he has previously matched Melo card for card 2008 to 2010 but in a more lenient refereeing climate of Germany, the suggestion is his adaptation into the League could come with at least as many cards that brought unwanted focus on Melo’s style of play.

Antonio Conte’s responsibility, therefore, will be to ensure the player is given room to show his other capabilities as a footballer, so that any number of cards that may or may not hurt the team, do not becoming defining aspects of Vidal’s impact in Serie A, one that otherwise could be very positive.

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Bjerknes

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Sour grapes from Bayern. Rummenige always manages to bitch about something, so it's not that big of a deal, but still makes me happy. Hopefully their transfer plans are all messed up now and Dortmund lights up the league again.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Arturo Vidal is potentially smart business from Juventus, but, as Rob Paton asks, are they setting him up to be Felipe Melo part two?
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Didn't read the whole thing, but yeah. I'd say we could be setting him up if we plan to use that 4-4-2. It will probably fail and he'll look like crap.
 

Lo-Pan

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Didn't read the whole thing, but yeah. I'd say we could be setting him up if we plan to use that 4-4-2. It will probably fail and he'll look like crap.
Its a rather misleading article as the very obvious distinction between Melo (whose natural game is a midfield bossman, capable of chipping in with the odd goal, always hustling, imposing himself in the middle of the field, mainly through physicality and bravery and determination, also capable of the odd brilliant pass) asked to play as a regista, and Vidal asked to play as a defensive midfielder. Its different becausse Vidal can more naturally adapt to DM, CM, perhaps even AM, than Melo could naturally adapt to Regista.

Seems that the writer was thin on ideas...
 

ThirdStar

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Jul 5, 2011
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Vidal had the most touches in Bundesliga, more than Schweini and Nuri sahin. And his passes were more accurate too. Not only that, he attempted and succeeded at more tackles than Sven ( Bundesliga best DM ).

He is not the same as Melo.......

Btw, Vidal's bad record with cards was back in 2009. in 2010 he pulled it together and was handed 3 cards only I think.(not sure but it was in that Vidal article posted a few pages back)
 

ThirdStar

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Vidal is class on and off field. People will argue with this but he's fucking World class as far as I'm concerned. Few players play like him now in his role.
 

JuveJay

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I guess it is possible that early on he might end up in some card trouble, if referees are particularly cuntish towards all-action players as they can be.
 

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