Arthur (34 Viewers)

[Boksic]

Without looking at the numbers it suggests that we don't think Fiorentina will take up he option and we won't be able to sell him.

If we did think Fiorentina would sign him, we would be happy for Arthur's book value to drop by as much as possible until next summer when Fiorentina would activate the option. That would mean we would maximise the gain in our accounts when we sell him. One year of smaller amortisation isn't that great if the gain is smaller when we sell.

Instead we are reducing how much his value drops in the accounts each season. So if we sold him next summer the gain would be less.

The tactic works best if we expect him to stay a while without being able to sell him, as the annual amortisation is lower. If we expect to sell him in the next year it isn't worth it. There is a reason we have done this tactic before with players we can't sell.

But if it is a 20m obligation that'd be great.

 

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[DanielSz]

20m obligation? again, i have no idea how accurate is it, but if it's true then the extension makes sense: it lowers the amortization for next season

also, commisso might be a barking dog in front of the press but if he really pays 20m for arthur then he's a bigger gobbo than del piero and nedved combined

if only it were a better source reporting this. I just can't see Fiorentina agreeing to that, but that would be sick.

 

[U Picciriddu]

20m obligation? again, i have no idea how accurate is it, but if it's true then the extension makes sense: it lowers the amortization for next season

also, commisso might be a barking dog in front of the press but if he really pays 20m for arthur then he's a bigger gobbo than del piero and nedved combined

This is the only scenario where a extension would make any sense

 

[Scottish]

You don’t know what you’re missing.

I missed a crucial few years. Never saw Arthur, barely saw Can or Blaise or Douglas. The glory years

 

[s4tch]

if only it were a better source reporting this. I just can't see Fiorentina agreeing to that, but that would be sick.

schira said "option"

in that case he might just stay for an other year and collect the wages

again, we're just speculating until anything reliable comes out

 

[Scottish]

Without looking at the numbers it suggests that we don't think Fiorentina will take up he option and we won't be able to sell him.

If we did think Fiorentina would sign him, we would be happy for Arthur's book value to drop by as much as possible until next summer when Fiorentina would activate the option. That would mean we would maximise the gain in our accounts when we sell him. One year of smaller amortisation isn't that great if the gain is smaller when we sell.

Instead we are reducing how much his value drops in the accounts each season. So if we sold him next summer the gain would be less.

The tactic works best if we expect him to stay a while without being able to sell him, as the annual amortisation is lower. If we expect to sell him in the next year it isn't worth it. There is a reason we have done this tactic before with players we can't sell.

But if it is a 20m obligation that'd be great.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Are we cooking the books again?

 

[GarfielD]

No way there is an obligation included in this loan.

 

[Osman]

one of my friends is a big barca guy and he was so pissed at the swap that I actually believed we found our next star LOL.

Now that I think about it, the majority of juve fans were excited about the deal. I bet the early pages of this thread would prove that.

Was doomed from the start, one of the first posts of the thread:

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

 

[rainhard]

For this extension to work, he need to take big paycut in his yearly salary from 5m per year to around 3-3.5m per year, if not it will backfire for us in next 2 years. We are very lucky last season that Liverpool help us to pay almost all of his salary with that loan lol

 

[Valerio.]

For this extension to work, he need to take big paycut in his yearly salary from 5m per year to around 3-3.5m per year, if not it will backfire for us in next 2 years. We are very lucky last season that Liverpool help us to pay almost all of his salary with that loan lol

well point is that whatever that isn't a loan worth 15m + fully paid wages is a loss for us.
He'd have to take max 3m to be worth and make a renewal till 2026

 

[petszata]

well point is that whatever that isn't a loan worth 15m + fully paid wages is a loss for us.
He'd have to take max 3m to be worth and make a renewal till 2026

latest news is that we have to increase his salary to make the deal with the villagers

 

[Rockets]

Ok Ok now I understand the extension thanks to some useful posts above.

Q: Look at this rich guy, what does he do for a living?
A: He doesn't do anything.

 

[Valerio.]

I doubt an extension is useful cause "decreto crescita" last for 5years. After that it's full wages without discount on taxes.
So if now with a 4.5m net season we pay a total of 7m gross income after the 5 years even on 3m it would be almost 6m gross

So what are we trying to do? lower a little the annual deprecation? all to void it paying more taxes from sixth year on?
Just let him run out of contract. 4.5m it's not cheap but not exactly high either. We can survive. Just let that fucking junkard go.

 

[Espectro]

latest news is that we have to increase his salary to make the deal with the villagers

WHAT???

 

[j0ker]

Mandatory how? If he scores 20 goals and Fiorentina wins Serie A?

 

[.zero]

Mandatory means next season he will be officially off of our payroll and onto Fiorentina?

this is too good to be true

 

[s4tch]

Mandatory means next season he will be officially off of our payroll and onto Fiorentina?

this is too good to be true

yes, and in that case the extension makes sense too: lower amortization for the next season (supposedly his last on our payroll)

very good job by giuntoli if true

- - - Updated - - -

his book value at the end of the last financial year (30.06.): ~32m
yearly amortization before the extension: ~16m
gross wages: ~6.5m
total cost: ~21.5m (21.7m according to calcioefinanza)

after the extension:
amortization: 10.7m
wage: ~6.5m (fiorentina is rumored to pay 2m net, 2.6m gross)
total: ~14.6m
cost lowered by ~6.9m for next season

book value next summer: ~21m

did this fucker just sell arthur ~at his book value

 

[Espectro]

If he goes with an obligation to buy… my faith in Giuntoli will return…

 

[KB824]

If he goes with an obligation to buy… my faith in Giuntoli will return…

Return? He just got here