Arthur (57 Viewers)

[zizinho]

In midfield we actually lack the player in the type of Pjanić or Pirlo the most, the playmaker who can pass long balls. Hate to say it but it has Jorginho written all over it.
Arthur on other hand is a Pjanić with out long pass and long shot ability, but maybe more agile. So basically he is shit.

And without short pass forward, and without set piece or shooting or crossing

 

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[DanielSz]

do you understand the word "main"? The most used one? Ofc they were changing their formations from time to time because of different gameplan, injuries, opponents and so on

Your entire argument is "hes better at mezzala than at regista and that's a fact" and your evidence are his 15/16 season's stats which didn't even all come as a Mezzala. Do you understand?

btw I would love to know how many of his goals came from set pieces, making your "value based on stats" stance pointless

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Your entire argument is "hes better at mezzala than at regista and that's a fact" and your evidence are his 15/16 season's stats which didn't even all come as a Mezzala. Do you understand?

jesus christ, he was playing there as RCM/LCM for every season apart from few matches, they had DDR who was playin infront of the defense or Strootman and when they were injured Roma's coach had to use someone else there ffs, why you don't get it?

See?? or you don't see it??RCM in 4312, RCM in 433, when there was no DDR or Strootman he was playing deeper because they had no other options. And then he went to Juventus and after some time Allegri has started to give him a more central and deeper role when Marchisio wasn't available and especially when he left Juve. He even tried to use Hernanes before Pjanic there.

 

[DanielSz]

jesus christ, he was playing there as RCM/LCM for every season apart from few matches, they had DDR who was playin infront of the defense or Strootman and when they were injured Roma's coach had to use someone else there ffs, why you don't get it?

See?? or you don't see it??RCM in 4312, RCM in 433, when there was no DDR or Strootman he was playing deeper because they had no other options

I'm not arguing his primary position. I'm arguing where his stats came from, since you're basing your entire argument off of stats. Like, how many of his goals came from free kicks for example? Using stats to determine his value in one role vs another is pretty dumb.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I'm not arguing his primary position. I'm arguing where his stats came from, since you're basing your entire argument off of stats. Like, how many of his goals came from free kicks for example? Using stats to determine his value in one role vs another is pretty dumb.

His overall impact there was bigger on that position. Juventus should have a signed real regista if they wanted to play like that, instead we've tried to turn Marchisio into Pirlo, then Hernanes, then Pjanic, then Bentancur and now it's Rabiot and Arthur. Why Zakaria doesn't play infront of the defensive line and doesn't start Juventus attacks? I have no idea.

 

[Post Ironic]

Pjanic best season was 16/17 for people who watched him. Only those who watch sofascore instead of games claim otherwise

Apparently 10 goals-12 assists > 8 goals - 14 assists. Obvious stats are obvious lol

Nevermind that in that 16-17 season he also controlled the tempo and pace of game for us, built play from deep, and upped his defensive work rate and contributions massively. He was clearly terrible in that two man mid with Khedira

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

He had 8 goals, 14 assists his first season at Juve. Next season, similar numbers. Lets not pretend he wasn't good.

On no, but you see a lot of Pjanic’s assists came from corners or free kicks and they don’t count according to RUS.

 

[Post Ironic]

On no, but you see a lot of Pjanic’s assists came from corners or free kicks and they don’t count according to RUS.

They only count when they came from corners and free kicks at Roma. Nevermind that Pjanic went from taking all free kicks at Roma to sharing them with Dybala at Juve.

 

[DanielSz]

They only count when they came from corners and free kicks at Roma. Nevermind that Pjanic went from taking all free kicks at Roma to sharing them with Dybala at Juve.

or not taking them at all thanks to someones ego

 

[Bianconero81]

Ramsey, Sturaro, Poulsen & Tiago want to have a word with you.

Glassmsey is one of the three. In terms of wages + impact the Brazilian Beach Ball Expert, The Malignant French Malaise, and the Amateur Golfer are worse than the accidental footballer, access denied, and pukeson.

 

[Hust]

MAGA

MAKE ARTHUR GO AWAY
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BOOM

 

[U Picciriddu]

He'll leave his agent said.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Good.

Hope it’s a sale but I don’t think there’s many teams retarded enough to want to sign him permanently.

 

[maxi]

Pogba and Jorginho.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Agresti copying me as usual

 

[Robee]

Pogba and Jorginho.

That would be a serious upgrade, combined with one of Rovella/Miretti/Fagioli.

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Good.

Hope it’s a sale but I don’t think there’s many teams retarded enough to want to sign him permanently.

Loan + option (hopefully obligation in case of... for sure)

 

[GrandeGigi]

Let’s hope that’s the last we ever see of him in a Juventus shirt. 2 year loan would great as a 1 year loan would just mean some team sends him back like Ramsey.

 

[X Æ A-12]

just leave please. leave and never return

 

[Bianconero81]

But we always win when he plays, and he's "arguably" our best midfielder. If both he and the French Malaise leave, how are we going to cope without their physicality, pressing, and awesome passing game?

 

[zizinho]

Pogba and Jorginho.

It will be a loan probably, hopefully we managed to attach a obligation to buy after 2 years